Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar. File photo

Ajay Banerjee

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, Oct 27Two days after Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar ordered a cross-checking of facts on rank parity between officers of the three forces and civilians, the Ministry of Defence (MoD) on Thursday issued a clarification saying there has been no “downgrading” of service officers.The MoD said media reports had “erroneously” stated that the equivalence has been disturbed and status of service officers has been downgraded.“It is clarified that there has been no down-gradation or any change in the existing equivalence of the service ranks whatsoever”, spokesperson for the MoD said. The existing functional equivalence as clarified in 1991 and further reiterated in 1992, 2000, 2004 and 2005 has only been re-affirmed, the MoD said.There have been reports in the media that the central government has issued a new order lowering the status of military officers with respect to their civilian counterparts in the Armed Forces Headquarters.

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The MoD said: “The present reiteration of rank equivalence, is only for matters of assigning duties and functional responsibilities as is already existing in different offices of the respective service headquarters of the Army, Navy and Indian Air Force having component of service personnel as well as Civilian officers”.This has no bearing on civilian employees outside these offices of the service headquarters.A circular issued on October 18 and reported in media said a Major General (Rear Admiral in the Navy and Vice-Marshal in the Air Force) was at the same level as principal director at the Armed Force Headquarters (AFHQ) Civil Service. Similarly, Colonel had been placed on the same level as joint director on a civil post.

BATHINDA: Slamming the Badal government for failing to ensure the upkeep of war memorials in the state, Punjab Congress president Captain Amarinder Singh on Wednesday cleaned the “neglected” statue of Subedar Nand Singh, recipient of Victoria Cross and Mahavir Chakra, at Fauji Chowk here.

Also from the 1st Sikh regiment to which Subedar Nand Singh belonged, Captain described the condition of his statue as “yet another glaring instance of how little the Badals care for our soldiers and their memories”.

Trying to strike an emotional chord with armymen and exservicemen, Amarinder said there was no point of setting up memorials and installing statues if the government could not ensure their proper maintenance. Asking the government to hand over these memorials to the army, he said: “Our martyrs deserve no less.”

Captain, in whose book ‘Lest We Forget’ Nand Singh’s story finds detailed mention, recalled how at the age of 33 this “loyal solider of the Indian Army” (by then a jemadar, who was not even required to go into the battle) chose to lead his platoon in a desperate but successful attack to rescue his battalion from an ambush in Uri in Kashmir in December 1947. He was killed in action but his body was never recovered.“It was later discovered that the Pakistanis recognised Nand Singh because of his decorated VC ribbon and took his body to Muzaffarabad, where, in the most abominable manner, it was tied on a truck and paraded through the city,” said Captain.

“Unfortunately, the Badal government has never shown much respect to our army or its personnel,” said Captain, referring to the prolonged protest of war widows in Punjab and reiterating his party’s and his personal commitment to address their concerns.

On October 20, 1962, within hours 283 Indian soldiers were killed when the Chinese came from the Thagla range shadowing the Namka Chu river

Cold was responsible for the death of many in the then ill-equipped Indian Army. Photo: Thinkstock

On a sunny morning a young shepherd takes his cattle across the lovely winding Namka Chu into the dense pine forests on the ridge above. The cold wind blows in from the north and the boy looks up at the steep mountain ahead of him covered by rhododendrons. He steps on a rusted shell, picks it up, examines it and then flings it into the flowing rapid waters of the rivulet unmindful of the tragedy that took place here half a century ago, a military disaster of the Indo-Chinese War.The 1962 Chinese aggression on India for the most part lies consciously overlooked. That ignominy is best buried, especially since the nation took a beating. Writing must be celebratory, we feel, especially when we speak of national pride. That is one possible reason no one is expected to re-think of the defeat and the military slipups of our generals. But my mind goes back to it having lived through the Sixties as a child, listening to stories of the war that have only recently become instances of shocking misrepresentation, vilification or as Salam Rushdie would say, ‘memory’s truth’.The Chinese came as an avalanche at the break of dawn from the Thagla range shadowing the Namka Chu river, wiping out an unprepared and ill-equipped adversary, an instance of the terrible theatre of absurdity in the annals of military history matched only by the Vietnam massacre. On October 20, 1962, within hours 283 soldiers died, hundreds wounded and many forced to spend over nine months in a prison in China in sub-zero temperatures, surviving the long endless ordeal in flimsy winter clothing and three meals a day of unappetising rice and radishes. Some of them came back to tell their story. Sadly, many stories still remain untold.My mind rambles to the agonising moral questions of the brutality and ugliness of war, a negotiation of the military generals with politicians while the subalterns have little say in the shaping of strategic combat warfare. History tells us that it is not the people who demand war; it is the governments that entice and persuade by appealing for sacrifice in the name of a noble cause or the spread of democracy. But the sanctity of the ‘moral crusade’ has to be questioned because at the centre of all wars lies homicide, torture, mutilation and rape of the innocent. War crimes are an aspect of the human history of aberration.Apart from the inadequacy of military solutions, I struggle to understand if it was a war or a massacre. I revisit the Homeric wars that were fought with ethics as the sine qua non of any fair battle. Armies faced each other with an understanding that the opponents would be equally matched. Often the most heroic and brave warrior was pitched against an opponent with corresponding credentials. And if they did not compare favourably, the war stood postponed till more fitting warriors entered the contest. Understandably, needless bloodshed stood circumvented with the outcome of the war dependent only on a well-matched bout.It is for this reason that modern scholars from Jean Braudillard to Paul Virilio have felt that the Gulf War, like other modern wars, did not take place since the cold-blooded end is foreclosed even before the war begins; the enemy is visible only as a speck on the TV screen thousands of miles above the earth or still sleeping in the bunkers. No face-to-face confrontation takes place. These are cold-hearted instances of savagery shameful to the core. But military records, reports and transcripts remain long hidden from public scrutiny and tolerance for war crimes a modern day political expediency. Lesson that wars should be the last resort have yet to be learned by the human race. It takes so long to learn the truth.The writer is a Professor and Fellow at the Department of English and Cultural Studies, Panjab University, Chandigarh

The funniest thing which has ever happened in the history of ESM unity is that today  Maj Gen Satbir is all out to woo the veterans of other group known as ESMP ( Ex-Servicemen Punjab) knowing fully well that it exists and functions and fight war of words against anyone or among its members  only on whats app  battlefield.

The Group consists of Col MS Bajwa,Col Rangi,Major Dharmani,few others who  are on Panchkula voter list and not even in  in Punajb nor have any followers on ground and other members of the group are from IESM ,IESL  or Col Sohi org and Sanjha Morcha. The Whats app group has no loacl standing as they add members and remove them if they questions Col rangi, a dictator.

The unity seeker  Maj Gen Satbir has never ever tried to seek unity with prominent ESM parties like Bhartiya Rakshak Party ,Sanik Samaj party  to forge unity why not? as he know they will flatly refused his ambitious desire  .

He is requesting for meeting with a Whats App group controlled by  5-10 members not belonging to Punjab.

However   Maj Gen Satbir  Singh ,is also found of adding self generated appointments and designations after his Name to show his qualification as a experienced leader ..

The Call  for unity by Maj Gen Satbir SIngh can be termed as haux Call . He  had never paid heed to any unity call by any other ESM organisations of Punjab .

Major Gen Satbir has many untold stories and had been a perpetual disunity creator among ESM.

The IESM was formed in 2008 from the members of IESL in 2008.  As he found not getting importance by having Lt Gen Raj Kadiyan as Chairman ,he started false propaganda against him and ensured split if IESM unity and promoted himself as as  chairman from Vice-Chairman post.

There after he withdrew funds from the IESM accounts at his will above 45 Lakhs in cash  as alleged and kept in his personal custody till date. Further collection of funds on the name of UFESM has been either deposited in IESM accounts and cash on person in crores. He is evading any direct question on the donation of funds accountability. He has made Fixed deposits on his name in crores as alleged and information among ESM.

Later UFESM was formed for OROP where all ESM organisations of the Nation came together to support the cause including IESL but he did not allow any other to come forward to take the lead and distant himself from all those who demanded accounts of Donation received.

Facade   call for unity is a hoax call nor he has the intentions to achieve but he is playing a clever game by fooling ESM of Punjab who invested their trust in him due to OROP .

At later stage he is likely to claim that he tried for unity but failed so he has no other alternative except to support the Party he has already in mind and ask veteran,his followers to vote the party of his liking.

As UFESM was registered by the break away group he had no alternative except to rename UFESM as UFESMJM which is not even registered NOR His FJP is  registered Political organisation on the web site of Election Commission of India/Punjab. Can he provide its authenticity . What is the sole purpose of his in Punjab elections. 

Its confirms beyond doubts that he has become stooge of some political  Parties and to blackmail the Regional Parties with False show of ESM strength to inflate his balance in hand .

It is alleged that he has been tasked to divide the ESM votes in Punjab not to Let Capt Amarinder Singh win the Punjab elections as ESM. and has received good kitty for the needful.

The WAR of words started in the infamous Whats app group of ESMP between Maj Gen Satbir and veterans members as they could not digest this opportunist call  of unity by  Maj Gen Satbir in view his Faujee  Janta Party Jumping into Punjab Elections to ensure defeat of Capt Amarinder Singh an EX-Servicemen.

He has the financial backing from some  ruling political  Parties and as we all know he can do anything but  has love for  Money.

RESPONSE FROM ESM ORGANISATION PUNJAB

  The press meet on 18 Oct will be a show of strength by other groups with Banners displaying the fund embezzlement by  Maj Gen Satbir, Details of FIR against him, Bail Issue and FJP not a Registered Political Party for Punjab elections. Refund of amounts donated as receipt not issued.

ALL ESM who have contributed to OROP will be there to demand refund or receipts in lieu and accounts details

Emails will be sent to the entire media regarding his deeds of collection of huge amounts in crores at JM  and his blood relatives in sale of Diesel/Manhandling of JCO . The details of Fixed deposits on whose Name and validity period

There wil be distribution of Leaflets at the venue to ensure Press is fully equipped with the reality fo FJP and its betrayal from main agenda of OROP. 

WHAT APP :CHAT EXTRACTS AS RECEIVED 

Unity Call by Maj Gen Satbir

Dears Col Bajwa and Capt Badial,
1  We all met at my res for the purpose of forging Unity amongst the Def Fraternity.I had said the same what i have mentioned above.We were looking at Unity at the Country Level.OROP became the reality because of the Participation of THE DEF FAMILY BY ALL STATES.In one of our Rally  at JM,DEF PERS AND OUR MEMBERS OF FAMILIES FROM 22 STATES WERE PRESENT.
2   Yes,it can be done even now.We are open to such a suggestion.UFESM JM was formed for the same purpose.
Regards

Maj Gen Satbir Singh.SM Advisor UFESM JM, Chairman IESM and Chief Patron FJP.

RESPONSE BY BRIG INDERMOHAN,PRESIDENT IESL PB

 Gen Satbir,
Let me bring out the hollowness of your claim for ESM unity with regard to Punjab.

When you met Capt Amarinder Singh at Chandigarh on 13 Aug you demanded 25 to 30 seats and also wanted funds to contest elections.

I think only a person living in a fools paradise can claim 25 percent of Punjab seats for ESM. You well knew this is not possible. Here there are on an average 15 aspirants to a seat and you expected a quarter for yourself.

Now tell the VETERANS who is financing the 60 seats that you want contest. It couldn’t happen that you wanted money for elections on 13 Aug and you decide to float FJP on 15 Aug.

At Khanna you also mentioned some funds have come and more will follow. Who had given you these funds?
But unfortunately in this case not only God above knows the truth, you also know it and a vast majority of Punjab ESM knows it and those not well informed will also be communicated.

You have given a long list of your appointments after your name, I would suggest you also mention, as is declared by political aspirants regarding cases against them, that you are on bail.

Brig Inder Mohan

COL IPS DHILLON REVEALS MORE FACTS

Came to know that FJP is holding Press conference on 18 Oct at Saini Bhawan ,sector 24 Chandigarh  Club and other organisations ESM are coming to attend in,a big way with banners against Maj Gen Satbir showing embezzlement of IESM funds

Further his close relative who is facing Inquiry for selling 200 barrels of Diesel from an,armed unit AND MAN HANDING of unit JCO’s. is a hard fact  but kept under carpet.

BRIG EXPOSES SATBIR BLOOD RELATIVE :DIESEL SALE :ARMD REGT

 Being from the Armoured Corps, the case of selling diesel is well known. It is known to most of the ESM in the country. That it has been covered up is also well known. There is something else also.

The manhandling of unit JCO.

Ask your colleagues from armoured corps.

Now upto you to decided can give out the name also which will be very embarrsing for you in the eyes of veterans of the Nation.

BRIG HARWANT SINGH ALSO CALLS FOR UNIITY FOR FIRST TIME KEEPING FJP IN MIND

 Dear Col Bajwa and Brig IMS,
For the process of *CHURNING*to start *ALL*MUST meet quite often in the spirit of *MUTUAL RESPECT*without any biases and prejudices to develop *MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING*.  We have NO option but to UNITE. Question of LEADERSHIP will come later and will be resolved automatically by this process of churning.
So henceforth, as the first step,  let’s RESOLVE to refer to one another in a decent,  if not respectful language. There after we should attend meet one another frequently and attend meetings/rallies called by the other groups.
Can we take these two baby steps to UNITY?

Regards,
Harwant

COL DHILLON QUESTION BRIG HARWANT FROM MOHALI SUDDEN DEMAND FOR UNITY

 Brig Harwant sir

how come suddenly you want unity among ESM .

Till date you have been,attending all Rallies held in Punjab but never took initiative. Now the motive for unity is FJP and you are one who is standing for elections from Mohali.

What a pity and cleverly playing the game as usual. We know FJP press meet is being held on 18 Oct in Saini Bhawan opp Batra Cinemas.

Till date you never ever spoke of unity even Col Bajawa tried his level best to unite but JM team never cared but why today.

You will all be welcomed at the venue by all ESM groups of Punjab with Banners showing Embezzlement of Funds why Maj Gen Satbir, and copies of  court case FIR filed against him, which will be released to the Press and TV channels. 

MAJ GEN SATBIR  DOUBTS SELECTION OF BRIG INDERMOHAN AT SSB

Brig Indermohan,i am amused at your remarks.

We at the SSB do see if there was any serious kink in the Personality of the candidate;it seems there had been a miss in your case.

How can you spit dirty venom on others just to support Capt Amrinder.I was not wanting to write about our Meeting with Capt Amrinder, since you have,throwing all ethics of confidentiality to winds of  a Private Talk,let me tell you that we met Capt Amrinder on 13 Aug as ESM.

He was aware that there are over 50 Lakhs Votes of Def Fraternity and members of their families in Punjab,there are 21Cantonements and serving pers are allowed to vote at the place of posting as per the SC Judgement.Looking at 25-30 seats for Def Family incl our kith and kin is very much just and fair thought.

Ask Capt Amrinder if you claim to be close to him that i also asked him to let us know as to what was the proposal  at his end to forge an understanding or Alliance.He understood our Assessment  and info that he would revert to me on 16 Aug Evening. He has not yet comeback.
Brig Indermohan,being an ESM,you should be having the interests of Def Fraternity in mind.
Let me also tell you that OROP became reality because SOME UNITY OF DEF FRATERNITY at all India level was made possible with max contribution from Punjab.
So once again i would suggest to you FOR GOD SAKE ,DONOT SPIT VENOM OF FALSEHOOD ON OTHERS.
Now;talking of accounts,let me tell you that every paise has been accounted for by competent  Accoutants ant CA Firm of repute  is the Independent  Auditor.
Today is the 485th day of our Protest Movement  Across the Country and at UFESM JM which is still on.You should be Fair,Just and reasonable when you make remarks on others.

Maj Gen Satbir Singh.SM Advisor UFESM JM, Chairman IESM and Chief Patron FJP.

BRIG INDERMOHAN,PRESIDENT IESL PB RESPONSE 
Gen Satbir,
I will answer every line of yours. You, me, like everyone else went through the UPSC and SSB.

If there was something amiss in my selection I am sure the mistake was made twice in yours and your son’s case. I am sure this answers your observation. Coming to your son’s case. Do you remember you were sub area commander ambala when I had just finished my command.

You called me to your home seeking advise about your son who was passing out from IMA as to which ARMD REGT he should join. You suggested some names of old regts.

I told you in armd corps you could be in any REGT but your son has to work twice as hard than anywhere else because of our small size and highly competitive environment. What he has got into is known to us.
What confidentiality are you talking of. You wanted help for bail you got it from Capt Amarinder Singh.
It is rubbish to say that there are 50 lakh votes of def fraternity. The total voter strength of Punjab is 1.96 crores. The veteran strength is around 2.80 lakhs. We assume 10 percent are settled outside Punjab including abroad. We work on a figure of 2.50 lakh. With three more members it comes to 10 lakh votes.

Where you got figures of 50 lakh which is 25 percent of the total votes. Now to service voters. Again you are wrong on two counts. Not 21 but 14 mil stns. Nothing new you have told us of service voters. But not more than 50 percent get registered because not all want to get their home state votes cancelled.
Now to your proposal and Capt Amarinder’s response. Your proposal of 25-30 seats is well known. Your demand of funds for election is well known. Why you got no response from Capt Amarinder Singh also would be known to you. Suffice to say, please don’t assume a larger than life role for yourself that you will determine 25 percent candidates in Punjab.

I bet you will not even get a nomination for the RWA body of your locality or society and you want to preside over the Punjab electorate. I assure you a shameful loss of security deposit of all your candidates in Punjab.
No one has interest of veterans of Punjab in mind more than we who support Capt Amarinder Singh. And no politician, not only of Punjab, but whole of the country who has interest of ESM more closer to his heart than Capt Amarinder Singh.
Coming to OROP and unity. UFESM was jointly chaired by Lt gen Balbir Yadav and you. I visited JM more number of times than any officer from outside Delhi, especially Punjab till 5 sep 15. And we did not use one rupee of our fund. You are enjoying visiting all over, especially Punjab with the money collected. Let me place it on record. I have spent more than what will accrue to me from OROP arrears in four installments. Can you say the same.

See IESL accounts. Show the world your accounts. Don’t talk of auditors. Not once you or your cash collectors agreed to show the accounts till 5 SEP. What you did to the earlier funds of IESM is well known.

Please ask wg cdr C K SHARMA to come on record his statement in the ongoing case. You put him to shame by getting him arrested and escaped to Chandigarh. This is your leadership.
I am very clear in my goals and the road to be taken. I spend from my pocket for all my travels in support of Capt Amarinder Singh. I can say this in a gurudwara on oath on Guru Granth Sahib , can you say this about yourself that you spend money from your pocket in your political activities and your earlier errands in Punjab.
Sir, no one can run away from his misdeeds. My suggestion. Stay off Punjab. This facade of FAUJI relationship will not be adhered to in the political battlefield whether you like it or not.

Inder Mohan

MAJ GEN SATBIR  REPLIES 

Brig Indermohan Ldh: Brig Indermohan being a Def Offr,you can stoop so low was not thought of by me.You have serious kinks in your Personality.
A Brig rank offr telling fat lies does not behove of you.
Coming to Def Fraternity Voting Str,you seem to be deficient of knowledge.
The ESM str as Registered with the Soldier Boards in Punjab is 2.86 lacs,in addition there are 69000 Widows.

I donot want to write the figs of Serving Def Fraternity for the reason of Security.Many Def pers are not Registered with Soldier Boards.5 votes  per ESM and his/her family and counting ONE BTOTHER AND ONE SISTER and they in turn have 5 votes each.In addition,a Fajuji in the village does have influence on some persons of the village.Counting a min of 5 per ESM,VOTING INFLUENCE OF DEF FRATERNITY TOGETHER WITH THEIR IMMEDIATE SUPPORTERS,the total Voting Power incl voting infuence Works out to more than 50 Lakhs.
Brig Indermohan,whether you believe this or not is your WISH.
For the sake of repetition,i would like to inform you that a sizable Unity at All India level was achieved for the Implimentation of OROP with the max Support from Punjab.
Brig Indermohan,let me further inform you that we do have details of 42 lakhs mobile numbers of Punjab.
You may have wild away your time in your Fauji Carreer;i have learnt on Every Day  of my Fauji Carreer.I was Instructor at FOUR INSTITUTIONS OF ARMY INCL COMMANDANT AND CHIEF INSTRUCTOR SERVICES SELECTION CENTRE.In addition i was SENIOR FELLOW AT IDSA.
I have authored a Booklet on Internal Dynamics of Pakistan.Brig Indermohan,i took up the cause of Welfare of  Def Fraternity  because of JANOON in me for the Cause of OROP.Donot question that.
Also,let me tell you, we have functioned with:-
*  Scrouplous Honesty
*  Ruthless Commitment
*  Amazing Efficiency
AND
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE GOVT IMPLIMENT
OROP though in a diluted form.

The Protest is still on and will continue till actual OROP is granted.
God Bless the Def Fraternity and let me wish you also  Brig Indermohan.

RESPONSE FROM BRIG INDERMOHAN TO MAJ GEN SATBIR

Gen Satbir, after 20 years I may have erred in your appointment as a brig. That you stayed in a house ahead of the corps HQ  is not forgotten by me. I stand by my visit to your house and your query on your son’s choice. Why do you think I would be lying. Anyway what happened in babina is too fresh to be forgotten.
Problem is with you GEN Satbir.

You first split IESM with GEN Kadyan. You lost election Signalman sheoran and recreated a new IESM at Pune. You didn’t account for a huge sum of money, over ten lakhs, and are in bail now. Somewhere mentioned another case filed for collection at jm last year. Your colleague in the money case has deposed against you.

Your correspondence with col ANIL KAUL  is in the open. What more you want to know.

Coming to your service career one thing you missed to mention that JM is a fertile ground for reaping benefits at the cost of ESM.
You think people came to JM because of you. If so what was the result in the 2008. We all were not keen on RHS but only you knew how to garner funds through RHS.
Yes I whiled away my time. Just to tease you. In 1971 I was the youngest armoured corps officer with three months service in war, without YOs, as a tank commander, in the best performance of the Indian Army in all wars in East Pakistan.

Though from armoured corps served in 14, 15 and 16 corps. Was selected in the first lot for UN mission when these recommenced after Gaza in 1988. Attended 14 Army courses, topped three, in top three in the others. I didn’t while away time drinking coffee in IDSA.
Be careful you may be charged for keeping records of 42 lakh telephones and misusing them.

Must have got it from your political benefactor in Punjab and we know who he is.
Finally you have been rewarded well for JM. Given a choice you would keep the money machine running. You have learnt this mantra well.
Good wishes cannot come from you because I am one who takes you head on, starting last year. I will not wish you well in Punjab take it from me.
Inder Mohan

ADD ON Brig INDERMOHAN REPLY

Dear Friends,
Whilst everyone suggests unity and discussions sitting across the table, no one is willing to call a spade a spade. I need not reiterate my stance because it is well known, why are you not questioning the motive of Gen Satbir. I

If you remember when he first announced FJP at jalandhar he said it would influence results in 60 seats. I questioned him then that the intention is to divert a few votes to favour the party which is sponsoring him. Can anyone say that FJP will win a single seat? Do we all not know that all esm candidates of FJP will badly lose their security deposit and will become a laughing stock. Let me tell you the talk already going around.

The esm say the ruling dispensation in Punjab has paid money to split esm votes. In the same breath they say it won’t affect the outcome. Now if we all agree on this can’t we unite and question Satbirs motive.  Are we slave to the IC number. Further why hasn’t he shown the same  enthusiasm in reaching out to esm of Haryana including in the OROP agitation. Are the esm of Punjab fools to go by what he tells us.
First step for all of us is to bar his role in Punjab.
Next coming to the point of what is good for Punjab. Is there any comparison between Capt Amarinder Singh and Kejriwal. Who has interest of Punjab closer to his heart. I am sure you will all get one answer.
Coming to the role of parties. Parties are of little consequence today. It is the leadership. Has sukhpal khaira gone through a political baptism. Same with jagmeet BRAR, Capt Baath, aman ARORA, col C D Kamboj and many more from congress and SAD. Can’t we use our brains in analyzing this simple issue.
Coming to political leadership. All these guys, so called entertainers who would perform on the stage for political parties to draw crowds have suddenly realised that they being crowd pullers can assign themselves bigger roles.

You think ghugi, bhagwant Mann, believe Harbhajan Mann is next, will provide us leadership.
Come on friends. Please compare them to one man Capt Amarinder Singh. The answer is clear. So much is now known about Kejriwal’s political philosophy that it will shock those who consider him a demi god.
If you can introspect these issues you will realise what is good for us.
Inder Mohan

FAUJI JANTA PARTY EXISTENCE IN PUNJAB AT STAKE

A large number of Veterans lead by Capt Channan Singh Sidhu, 

Col Nishan Singh Randhawa, Col Raghbir Singh, Col Jarnail Singh & 

all Veteran leaders of each Halqa of MAJHA & DOABA Regions, 

with the support of Col Manmohan Singh & Maj Gen SK Khajuria 

 

PLEDGE SUPPORT TO CAPT AMRINDER SINGH,

 

 Today in an impressive gathering of Veterans at Chandigarh.
Press Release by Capt Channan Sidhu & his supporters is also posted hereafter. 

Rgds.

Lt Gen Jasbir Dhaliwal 

Satbir came all the way from Delhi along with Brig JS Sandhu to meet and seeking number of seats in support of ESM from Capt Amrinder Singh after exhaustion of all doors at Delhi and Jallander with APP. 

 

He was totally denied by APP for 50 seats which he and his team claims that APP was ready to provide 50 seats for ESM to fight elections in Punjab.

 

   Satbir and his team came down  to seek 15 seats as alliance partner during discussions with Capt Amrinder Singh at his residence in Chandigarh on 13 Aug 2016 but they could not provide List of ESM Candidaes,their popularity,bio-data and name of the constituencies having public support for ESM.

 

Satbir and his team could not even give out the name of the ESM Party on 13 Aug to Capt Amrinder but demanded 15 seats as alliance and also demanded that the Capt should bear the cost of the election campaign of ESM candidates. 

 

However Capt Amrinder doors were open for second meeting as promised by Satbir but as usual Satbir with  his political ambition ,announced FJP at Issuru and made himself as chief Patron and nominated others but claiming to remain apolitical and never turned up for second meeting for negotiation.

 

Its beyond comprehension as to why outsiders from DELHI like Satbir and Kajeriwal wants to rule Punjab. 

 

Kejriwal a non-Punjabi,unknown to the culture and traditions of Punjab,cannot write or speak Punjabi wants to Rule Punjab and looking for a residential House in Punjab, prior to election to fool voters.

 

Satbir Political ambition was evident after Bihar elections probably he is comparing OROP struggle at JM supported by ESM and elections in Punjab  in the same plate.

 

Satbir talks about ESM but his hidden agenda not known to any ESM of Punjab.

 

 If he cannot support Capt Amrinder Singh, a well established ESM and  able administrator and writer , a friend of ESM,supported OROP cause at JM but Satbir declined Capt Amrinder to come and address Rally at Fathegarh with the fear that  Capt would have  steal the show. 

 

The Rallies conducted by Satbir at various Location at Punjab ,he only spoke about OROP  and nothing about Punjab Problems the ESM are facing.

 

The motive was to show he has massive followers in Punjab to the ruling AKALI /BJP govt and APP.

 

The ESM came and attended his rallies to hear what he has in store for ESM of Punjab in coming elections but he wasted time and effort and financial losses and demoralise ESM of Punjab and no media coverage was there.

 

Satbir due to his ego problem, adamant attitude as usual not listening to anyone suggestion except DELHI team of JM did not even bother  to speak to   other Organisations of ESM in Punjab and Political ESM Parties , who were ready to support him but he kept himself and his branded IESM as supreme and above all and never ever accepted invitations for unity from other ESM Organisations and ESM Parties but asked others to fall in line.

 

Satbir downfall in Punjab is due to his own selfish ambitions and projection and his unpredictable nature and keep everyone guessing and fear from the core committee members of IESM Delhi , as some are  staunch supporters of BJP, as he conveyed at Khanna rally and his  ever changing  stands on issues.

 

 If he is really interested in the welfare of ESM community in Punjab he should support Capt Amrinder Singh as ESM if not the Congress.

 

 Capt himself wants ESM to reach assembly and if Satbir desires he can get a ticket and one or two of his supporters like Col Balbir Singh. 

 

 God bless him may give him understanding that OROP struggle was for  all ESM of the Nation and not only for Punjab. His understanding with ruling parties of Punjab is an open secret and receiving some grants to divide the ESM of Punjab without realising that the he is playing with the future respectability of ESM in Punjab if he cannot become a king makers or forms Govt in Punjab. One should dream high but with future repercussion in mind.

 

He has to differentiate JM struggle from Politics in Punjab the sooner the better.

 MAJ GEN SATBIR NOT RETURNING VETERANS AMOUNT NOR ISSUING RECEIPT

Dear Major Gen Satbir Singh,

   Inspite of my repeated requests through various  communication channels. to refund an amount  *Rs 4800/-* for the cancellation charges of air ticket from Delhi to Poona to meet Anna  Hazare for 15 July2015.

 

Its more than a year but you have niether reponded nor showing any intension of refunding me back. Have met you at various rallies of ESM in Punjab but you have not paid me back.

 

Sir, You have forced to wtite to you this open request as you are not heeding my repeted requests.

 

   The  cancellation of the ticket recipt was handed over personally to you on 13 Juy 2015 in the  IESL office during UFESM meet. The ticket was booked on your request and later  asked me to cancell it on pretext with a lame excuse that you have been called by COAS.May 

 

I request you now to refund me the said amount of Rs 4800/- by Cheque or deposit directly in my account Number held with PNB sector 40C,Chandigarh

 

NAME:    Col Charanjit Singh Khera

Acct No:   738600010000263

 

IFSC Code:  PUNB0738600

 

With Warm Regards

Col Charanjit Singh Khera

9988266450

  

COL NS RANDHAWA REQUESTING FOR Rs 82000/- CASH RECEIPT FROM MAJ GEN SATBIR/Gp Capt Gandhi SINCE JAN 2016 BUT NOT PROVIDED

 

Dear Gen Satbir SiR

, I am reminding U of forwarding a receipt of an amount to the tune of approx eighty two thousand handed over to U while meeting twenty three officers at a Petrol pump on the by pass road at Amritsar. Since I was detailed to receive U sir from the Rajasansi Air Port to Pathankot to attend a ralley dt 31Jan 2016. Sir it was well arranged gathering of offrs There was some confusion about the Acct No so max of us paid in cash Gp Capt Gandhi did make a mention that a receipt of the said amount will be forwarded But sir I have not got any receipt and now Gp Capt Gandhi is also back from abroad a receipt as requested may please be given for the info of those who r request ing. Sir I will be very grateful 

Thanks Regards
Col N S Randhawa            
                    II REMINDER

MAJ GEN SATBIR TAKING SHIELD of ladies FOR ONSLAUGHT ON OPPOSITION VETERANS who compares that  ANIMAL ARE  BETTER THAN HUMANS

 THE JT SECY  FJP DECLARES SATBIR AS BABARSHER AND HONEST::: ONE HAS TO TAKE 100 BIRTHS TO BECOME SATBIR

HOW HONEST IS MAJ GEN SATBIR

 Gen Satbir is raising Fauji Janta Party (fjp) wef 21/9/16 at jntr mntr. He is patron in chief & Col Malik is president. 

 

He plans to field 60 ESM candidates with 60 crores expdr? Badals have tasked Satbir & Navjot Sidhu to spoil AAP vote bank to help SAD/BJP win.

 Gen Satbir is facing following charges: 

 1. Two court cases for fund misappropriation & mismngt of IESM.

 2. Fir no 71/2016 dt 8/2/16 for fund misappropriation. 

3. On bail for this FIR. 

 4. Another FIR No 153/dt 1/9/16 by CBI for funds misappropriation of Jntr Mntr collections. 

 

5. Contempt of court, case listed for next dt 16/12/16 at H/C Chd

. 

6. Is he a clean person? He is disgracing/spoiling ESM name? There is a need by ESM org to file report against him imdtly to election commission. His aim is to earn only money & self projection from Pb elections & nothing for the ESM community of Pb. 

 

Col SS Sohi.

 

CLARIFICATION GIVEN TO THE RESPECTED LADY:

JT SECY FJP

 

With due respect to the self styled -Babarsherni-

 

You must be knowing  your so called *Babbarsher since ages* but I know him since 2008, ie when the struggle for OROP started at JM.

All he has achieved so far is *fragmentation of IESM body* into  smithereens.  

 

The so called *loyalist are all Gunners & none else*, it surprises all the veterans as to how the honorable *Lady from IAF background has all the praises for this Indian Army General*.

 

Earlier the JM had a strong Lady like you named *Sujata*  *daughter of a famous General who came from USA and dedicated more than 4 months at JM, even she was similarly used as a shield by your Babbarsher. Soon she saw through the game and hence *was discarded like a fly from glass of milk*. Pray 4U.

 

There is a famous saying that ” *900 चूहे खाकर बिल्ली हज़्ज को चल्ली*
*After eating  nine hundred rats , the cat proceeded to Hajj*”. That’s what your so called Babbar Sher is doing.

 

Very  soon the Babbarsher  shall be eclipsed with ur good wishes.

 

You are sadly mistaken that one has to undergo a cycle of *100 births to become MG  Satbir, well for ur knowledge  there are million births which get aborted despite that people with characteristics of your *DEVTA* do appear to burden the Mother Earth .

 

Suggest You convey all these false praises in the Court when his case comes for hearing , *we know him better than you*

 

He is like  *Syed Ali Shah Geelani a Hurriyat* self styled J&K leader who incites *women & children* to throw stones on army personnel and *hides behind in their skirts*. 

 

We veterans *respect women* and we advise you, don’t disgrace yourself and act like a sycophant .
*The reason for non responding to your procative messages in whats app*. Such messages does not suit a veterans wife with male vetrans,Kindly refrain from such issues.

 

It is beyond comprehension as to how you came to conclusion that he is *Babarsher/Devta /honest*. Hope you know what message you
are conveying to  veterans community??

 

Veterans like me came and left JM because we realised, he was using us to advance his personal ambitions. You are new to his game. So tread with caution!!!

 

If he is brave, let him answer the questions asked to him.

 

Hope you know that your so called  Babbarsher was -*hiding in Capt Chanan Singh’s Farm House like a गिद्दढ़* to evade his arrest

Later it was Col Khera who facilitated  meeting with Capt Amarinder at his resi on 13 August 2016. Whereas Capt only wanted to meet Col Balbir and Brig JS Sandhu.

 

And you brought your *बब्बर शेर driving in your car and drove  him back after lunch to your residence along with Brig JS Sandhu . Brig JS Sandhu was staying at Chandimandir from 13 Aug to  16Aug  Morning where was you Babarsher residing.

 

  What happened to your Babbarsher he demanded *25 seats along with financial backing* without any candidates name and constituencies. What a ridiculous proposal, he made a fool of himself.

 

All appointment you have mentioned are his self suffixed after his name.

 

Which UFESM you are referring to madam?? The one he him self distanced from?????

 

The IESL left him and many other supporters too as he was taking daily collection to his House without any accountability.

 

What to talk about donations amount he has not yet refunded my *Rs 4800/-* for the cancellation charges of airticket from Delhi to Poona to meet Anna  Hazare for 15 July
and handed him the cancellation ticket on 13 Juy 2015 at IESL office during UFESM meet.

 

As he was aware that lot of ESM are going to attend Anna Hazzare Rally at JM he constructed a seperate stage for Anna Hazare and organised  a RUN and B/F at JM.

 

He told lies to ESM from Punjab and made all sit facing new Stage and collected donations in thousands from the innocent ESM and insulted openly a National Leader like Anna Hazare but the great  person walked in hot sun to meet the fasting ESM but he did not receive him till end.

 

Again I tried to negotiate with him to come and meet Anna G but adament as ever did not wish Anna.nor came to meet!.

 

Today U  feel so much for this  egoistic man who insulted disrespected a   National Leader.

 

Again it was myself who convinced Anna  G and escorted  him to his stage. 

 

so Madam U R new to his game plans he only wants funds.

 

If he is *honest and have moral courage*  he cannot  deny above facts an d my positive role.

 

This was his first step to avoid others from asking for  fund accounts and  collections.

 

You call him honest.

My self was media advisor of the United UFESM then along with *Col Anil Kaul and COL Dinesh*.

 

Now to fool others he appoints himself as Advisor of a fragmented  group which no more exits and the real one UFESM is a  registered Body not UFESM JM. The name is ON for collection of more funds.

 

Yesterday Col Balbir requested me to spare you babbarsher for my onslaught about funds and FJP. But your mentor forced Brig Sandhu to remove me from Punjab 2017 WhatsApp group.

 

Now I am free to write and criticize and expose opposing party in Punjab elections. This is all politics now

Your writing that *animals are better than human beings*, may having associated with one, your नज़रिया underwent a change.

 

Can he prove that he is better than Capt Amarinder? No way Madam. It’s he who has to take 100 births.

 

Amrinder cares for ESM community , unlike your self centred egoist Babbarsher.

 

No problems the message will reach you soon..

 

We all tried to call him To unite with ESMP and Sanjha Morcha  but he wanted all others submission and even expected Capt Amarinder to approach him  and Tell him about seats.

  What a high headed person with flying EGO.

  Regards  and best of luck under Babbarsher’s command. 

 

CAN HE COMPETE WITH CAPT AMARINDER:: 

HOW MANY CONSTITUENCIES OF PUJAB HE HAS VISITED ::THE SUPPORT FROM CIVIL POPULATION AND RECOGNITION.

What Maj Gen  Satbir is writing as a message its copy paste of Capt Amarinder leaflet and more to come

There are 25 Points handed over to S. Manpreet Badal about ESM of Punjab Problems by Sanjha Morcha and all will be included in the Election manifesto of congress.

Major Gen satbor has nothing to contribute except divde the ESM votes so that the Ruling Punjab Govt wins .

It is alleged that he has received more than 60 crores to ensure candidates from FJP fight the elections and waste the votes.

Is he doing in the interest of Punjab or self potriat and agin fund collection sphere like APP.

His min motive and has been tasked by his rulers to ensure that Capt Amrinder Should not Get a Single ESM Vote and shold not come to power adn spoil the chances of APP. As the Akalis are afraid about the onslaught on them after the elections.

Its stange that Maj Gen Satbir Singh who became hero of OROP in his own style by deputing all supporters adn whoever asked the accountability of Donation at JM in crores ,today has handshake with govt with ruined Punjab Youth and all types of Mafias are prevailing in Punjab.

 

Beijing, October 10

Refuting reports of China joining water wars between India and Pakistan by blocking a tributary of Brahmaputra river, Chinese official media on Monday said that Beijing is ready to join a multi-lateral cooperation mechanism with India and Bangladesh to share the waters.

Relations between China and India should not be affected by “imaginary water war”, an article in the state-run Global Times said, adding that Beijing is unlikely to use Brahmaputra river water as a potential weapon.

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The article said China is willing to have multilateral cooperation with India and Bangladesh to share the waters. The proposal is significant as China has no water treaty with India to share the river waters.

“It is easy to understand the anger of Indian people as they read recent news reports saying China had blocked a tributary of the Brahmaputra river, which is a trans-boundary river flowing from Southwest China’s Tibet Autonomous Region into the northeastern Indian state of Assam and later into Bangladesh, serving as an important water source for the regions,” it said.

“The move by China to temporarily blockade the tributary to construct a dam sparked widespread concerns in India, but people in the downstream country may be ignoring one thing,” it said, adding that the reservoir capacity of the dam on the Xiabuqu river, a tributary of the Brahmaputra, is less than 0.02 per cent of the average annual runoff of the Brahmaputra.

“Frankly, there is no need for India to overreact to such projects, which aim to help with reasonable development and utilisation of water resources,” it said.

However, what is worrying is that some local Indian media outlets linked the blockage with India’s recent water dispute with Pakistan, trying to create the false impression that China may be interested in taking part in the “so-called water war between the two South Asian countries to give Pakistan silent support,” the article stated. “However, construction of the dam project on the tributary of the Brahmaputra started in June 2014,” it added.

“It is clear the blockade to construct the dam does not target India, and relevant countries should not read too much into the move,” the write-up maintained.

While it is understandable that India is sensitive to China’s water exploitation on the Brahmaputra as a downstream country, “China is unlikely to use the waters of the river as a potential weapon,” it said.

Pointing that China is the source of several trans-boundary rivers including the Lancang-Mekong River, which runs through China, Myanmar, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam, it said, “If China blocked the Brahmaputra for political reasons, such a move would cause panic among the five Southeast Asian nations and therefore damage China’s relationship with them.”

The article said there are cooperation mechanisms for China and the five Southeast Asian countries that can help coordinate sustainable use of water resources in the Lancang-Mekong River and share information.

“We believe that China is willing to borrow from the experience of this mechanism when it comes to promoting cooperation among the Brahmaputra’s three major riparian countries. This will be the most effective solution to the water dispute between China and India,” it said.

“Realistically, people may need to make efforts to persuade India, rather than China, to accept a multilateral cooperation mechanism involving all of the Brahmaputra’s riparian countries,” it added.

At the same the article has accused India of “making increasing efforts to exploit the Brahmaputra River through various forms”, in a bid to develop the river’s water resources.

“Some efforts may have harmed the interests of downstream Bangladesh, but the lack of bargaining power for Bangladesh, whose economy is highly dependent on India, has resulted in limited public attention,” it said.

“India may feel reluctant to establish a cooperation mechanism among the Brahmaputra’s riparian countries because such a mechanism is likely restrain India from moves that might hurt Bangladesh’s interests,” it said. —PTI

Army personnel at the scene of a gunfight with suspected militants in Pampore, south of Srinagar, on Monday. AFP

Mukesh Ranjan

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, October 10

Islamabad’s overture of asking its Army and the ISI to reign in terror outfits could only be a ploy to dodge the Indian establishment and the international community, feel officials of the Intelligence Bureau (IB), as according to one of the intercepts, handlers of a terror group were heard directing their men on the ground to “make India bleed”.Thus, for the past one week, the IB has been issuing regular updates on possible terrorist attacks in the country. Intelligence officials, while sharing the details of their intercepts with The Tribune, are of the view that the targets could be big cities and “engaging security forces in Jammu & Kashmir is just a ploy on part of jihadi groups”.The Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) today issued an advisory asking states to be extra vigilant against attempts by terrorists and subversive elements to disrupt peace and ignite communal tension during the festival season. The MHA has told the police of major cities (Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bengaluru and Hyderabad) to be extra vigilant during the Dussehra, Durga Puja and Moharram festivities.IB sources said: “For now, the entire security mechanism is focused on the Indo-Pak border and also on Jammu and Kashmir. Terrorist groups would look to use this as a diversionary tactic and attempt a major strike in India.” They also went on to add that even the overtures of the civil government in Pakistan, which directed its Army and the ISI to reign in terror outfits, was also a ploy to “fool New Delhi as well as the international community”.After providing safe abode to LeT chief Hafeez Sayeed and Hizbul Mujahideen boss Sayed Salahuddin at Lahore-based 4 corps formation of the Army, officials of the Pakistan forces are desperate to prove a point and hit back, the IB has learnt. “They will sanction as many strikes as possible and go all out to aid terrorists,” an IB official said. The recent visit by General Raheel Sharrif to the LoC was also a diversionary tactic to make India believe that there would be retaliation on the border.

250 terrorists looking to ‘avenge’ LoC strikes

• At least 250 terrorists belonging to three Pak-based terror groups are active in the Valley, trying to target security forces to ‘avenge’ the surgical strikes carried out by the Army.
• Government sources say most belonging to LeT, JeM and HM infiltrated before the surgical strikes early on September 29 and have been instructed by handlers across the border to target security forces in the Valley. PTI

Special Kashmir Envoy of Sharif, Mushahid Hussain Syed, said this in the US

Washington, October 6

America is “no longer a world power” and Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India are not considered, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s envoys have said here.“(The) US is no longer a world power. It is a declining power. Forget about it,” Special Kashmir Envoy of Sharif, Mushahid Hussain Syed, was heard as saying on Wednesday after the conclusion of an interaction at the Atlantic Council, one of the top American think-tanks.

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Syed and Shazra Mansab, another Kashmir envoy, are in the US as part of the Pakistani effort to apprise the global community of the current situation in Kashmir and allegations of human rights violations in the Valley.Syed has gone to the extent to warn the US that Pakistan would move towards China and Russia if its views on Kashmir and India were not considered.He was apparently responding to a question from a member in the audience after the conclusion of the 90-minute interaction during which he expressed his frustration over the lack of response to his point of view on Kashmir and India.The remarks of Syed were not recorded on camera, but were heard prominently by those inside the room.Thereafter, he was quick to point out China and the newly perceived relationship with Russia, which he had mentioned during his interaction at the Atlantic Council.Syed submitted a dossier of alleged human rights violation in Kashmir to Special US Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Richard Olson.With no takers for Pakistan’s Kashmir policy, Syed said China is now an important factor in South Asia and described Beijing as part of what he termed as Greater South Asia.“There has been slow and steady building of relationship between Moscow and Islamabad,” he said, referring to the joint military exercise between Pakistan and Russia.Syed said the Putin government has for the first time agreed to sell arms to Pakistan and the US should take note of this changing regional alignment.“Unfortunately under the Obama administration, there was a drift in American foreign policy towards our region, towards Afghanistan. There was confusion and there were a lot of flip-flops. I think, the Obama administration could not figure out this region of Afghanistan and Pakistan and as a consequence this region suffered.“With policies one step back and one step (forward), announcing surge, announcing a cut-off time for exit. Asking sometime Pakistan that please we want to talk to the Taliban and then saying that we want to take on the Taliban and finally they said there would be no American troops and then they end up having 8,500 troops stationed in Afghanistan. It leaves this to the next administration,” he said.Syed said Pakistan felt that the US should look at the region as a whole.“Whether it is Pakistan, India, China, Afghanistan and there is plus also, the Iran nuclear deal…because all these countries can contribute to the stability and security of the region.“And what Pakistan would like to have from the US, I am talking about the incoming administration, because Obama is a guest for the next few months as January 20, 2017 there will be a new administration, that they have to see the region, where they have a more comprehensive perspective, and do not try to compartmentalise peace and security, because that is not possible,” he said.“When you talk of peace in Kabul, you have to ensure that Kashmir is not burning. The US has a long-term interest in Kashmir. They are a party to the UN resolutions. The US has played a very legitimate role in supporting oppressed people, oppressed Muslims (in) Bosnia, Kosovo and even the Kurds.“So Kashmiris today should not suffer, just because Kashmir has no oil or Kashmir is not part of Europe or Kashmiris belong to a certain religious denomination, because we cannot have double standards on those issues,” Syed said.He said Pakistan had a long-standing relationship with the US and “we would like that (to continue). But of course, we have options also. With the greater Russian involvement in the region, they are also interested coming into CPEC (China Pakistan Economic Corridor). Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have also expressed interest in joining CPEC”.He also called for dialogue between India and Pakistan.“Issues cannot be brushed under the carpet. People thought the Kashmir issue is suppressed and buried. It has come back with a bang. It is more significant as (former) president (Bill) Clinton called as a potential nuclear flashpoint. The two nuclear neighbours should learn to talk to each other.“We feel that the way forward is that the region calls for statesmanship and what I call a Nixonian transformation of (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi. If he can have that outreach and develop that statesmanship which Richard Nixon demonstrated in 1971 courtesy Pakistan. I think, the options are there, opportunities are there. The ball is in Modi’s court, can he rise to the occasion as a leader of 1.2 billion people to build a better and peaceful tomorrow,” Syed said.Alleging that the US has done a U-turn of its policies on India, which started from the civic nuclear deal, he said the US is losing sight of the other interests in the region.“The most important interest of the US is stability of Afghanistan and counter-terrorism. And for that they like it or not, they need Pakistan’s cooperation, which they have been getting and we have been providing and we are also suffering in the process. We see the shift (of US policy from Pakistan to India). And that shift would be detrimental to America’s own security and interest in South Asia,” Syed added. PTI