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Cross-border tunnels expose chinks in security grid

There is no foolproof technology to detect underground tunnels along Indo-Pak fence

Cross-border tunnels expose chinks in security grid
A BSF man near the trans-border tunnel which was detected recently in the RS Pura sector of Jammu district. A Tribune photo

Ravi Krishnan Khajuria

Tribune News Service

Jammu, March 16

Pakistan’s secret trans-border tunnels on the militancy-hit Jammu and Kashmir frontier have yet again exposed the vulnerability of the anti-infiltration obstacle system (AIOS) along the international border and the Line of Control being guarded by the BSF and the Army, respectively.“The modus operandi of digging tunnels in a bid to push terrorists into J&K is certainly a matter of grave concern. It seems Pakistan has started imitating Hamas fighters, who dig out underground tunnels to enter Israel,” said a source in the counter-insurgency wing of the state police.A top police officer, in charge of a border district in Jammu, said: “Post Pathankot air-base attack there had been a lull along the Indo-Pak international border and when there is a lull, we anticipate something big. The trans-border tunnel in the RS Pura sector was one such act by Pakistan that was detected in time.”Since July 2012, it was the third such cross-border tunnel running into the Jammu region which was detected, he added.Trans-border tunnels detected in Chalyari village of Samba district, Pallanwala in the Akhnoor sector and the RS Pura sector of Jammu district were undoubtedly part of Pakistan’s proxy war against India, he said.“Samba, Jammu and Kathua districts are largely plain areas where tunnelling is easier than it will be in the rocky terrain of the LoC. We need to be more alert to this dangerous modus operandi because even the BSF is not aware of the fact that how many tunnels have been dug by Pakistan,” he added.An Army source said that despite sufficient troops, weaponry and ground-penetrating radars, trans-border tunnels from Pakistan posed a serious challenge to the security forces.Sources said since there was no foolproof technology to detect underground tunnels, the BSF had put the border under physical domination and initiated an anti-tunnelling drive. “We do use ground-penetrating radars but they, too, have a limitation,” a source added.


Jats warn of fresh protests if demands not met in 72 hours

ULTIMATUM Community leaders ask govt to agree to their demands, including reservation, within 72 hours or else they will come out on the roads in Haryana to hold protests again

I will convey the demands to chief minister Manohar Lal Khattar. Pressing for your demands is your right, but I request you all to maintain peace ATUL KUMAR, Rohtak deputy commissioner

ROHTAK: Tension gripped the city as around 5,000 Jat protesters gathered in the city to press for their demands, including reservation in government jobs and educational institutions.

HT PHOTOJat activists staging a dharna near the district headquarters in Hisar on Monday, to press for their demands, including reservation for the community.Adopting a tough posture, Jat leaders also boycotted a meeting called by the newly-appointed deputy commissioner (DC) Atul Kumar and insisted that he come to meet them at the Jat Bhawan in Sector 1, where they were holding their congregation.

DC Kumar and superintendent of police (SP) Shashank Anand reached the spot to receive their memorandum, listing seven demands, including reservation and withdrawal of arrest warrants against several Jat youths for their participation in the recent reservation stir.

In the memorandum, Jat leaders asked the government to agree to their seven demands within next 72 hours or they will come out on the roads to protest again.

Taking the memorandum, DC Kumar said, “I will convey the demands to chief minister Manohar Lal Khattar. Pressing for your demands is your right, but I request you all to maintain peace.”

Besides reservation and withdrawal of arrest warrants against Jat touths, protesters demanded a strict action against BJP MP Raj Kumar Saini and police officers, including DSP Amit Bhatia and Pawan Sharma, for ordering “lathicharge on innocent youths” inside the Neki Ram College hostel on February 18.

They alleged that ever since India became Independent, this is for the first time that any government used force on people peacefully protesting for their rights. They said they would protest against the government until all seven demands were met.

Heavy police and paramilitary forces were deployed in the area and across the city while barricades were set at 26 spots to control the traffic movement

within the city.

PANIC IN ROHTAK

Meanwhile, panic gripped the city as local residents witnessed a large number of policemen and paramilitary personnel deployed in the city. “Is the violence going to happen again?” asked Renu Nagpal from a police personnel. Talking to HT, she said, “Watching such a heavy police and paramilitary deployement is scary. I’m worried if this city is safe for us to live,” she said.

Pandit Suresh Sharma, owner of RN Central Mall, said, “I am scared if all that will happen again. The only solace I get is from the fact that my whole mall is ruined and I have nothing more to lose. But still it feels scary to even imagine it happening all again.”

The same happened in Jind, Jhajjar and Bhiwani where Jats gathered in large number to submit memorandums to respective deputy commissioners to give an ultimatum to the government. In Jind, thousands of Jats gathered at mini-secretariat where DC Vinay Singh came to take their memorandum. Jat leaders said this time, they would themselves make videos of their protest to prove they did not spread violence.

Protest march in Hisar, Sirsa; Jats firm on quota under OBC

HISAR: Jat activists took out protest marches in Hisar and Sirsa districts to press for their demands, including reservation in government jobs, on Monday.

HT PHOTORapid Action Force personnel deployed in Hisar on Monday.Jat protesters gathered at Krantiman Park here under the banner of All India Jat Aarakshan Sangharsh Samiti (AIJASS) and later they marched to deputy commissioner’s office.

Heavy police force and Rapid Action Force (RAF) personnel were deployed near the district headquarters premises to deal with any kind of untoward situation.

Jat protesters, who marched to district headquarters from Krantiman park, shouted slogans against the police, civil administration and the state government.

Talking to HT, AIJASS district president Rambhagat Malik said: “Jats from all over the district gathered here to press their demands, including reservation under the other backward caste (OBC) catogary. We have handed over a memorandum, addressed to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, to Hisar DC Chander Shakher Khare at his residence, who assured that he will forward our memorandum to the government.”

“We are also demanding that proper financial help and government jobs be given to the family members of those who died during the protest We have also sought action against those police officers who ordered firing on innocent youths. We have also gave 72 hours ultimatum to the government to stop arrests of the Jat youths who are innocent. If police continue to arrest our youths, we will start our protest again,” Malik added.

“We also demand that the government pass a legislation in the state assembly to give us reservation under the OBC category,” Malik added.

In Fatehabad also, Jat leaders handed over a similar memorandum to the DC.

In Sirsa, hundreds of Jat activists protested under the banner of All India Jat Reservation Struggle Committee and All Jat Association of Sirsa .

The protesters gathered at Jat Dharamshala here and latr marched towards the minisecretariat.

Jats may misuse their strength in army and police, says MP Saini

ALLEGES DESPITE SHOOT-AT-SIGHT ORDER, ARMY AND POLICE DID NOT ACT TO CONTROL ARSONISTS

KARNAL: Already facing flak for his anti-Jat remarks, BJP’s Kurukshetra MP Raj Kumar Saini on Monday again criticised Jats for making an “illogical demand” for reservation and said the members of the community might misuse their strength in the army and police.

“They (Jats) dominate the Indian Army and the state police. Still they are demanding reservation. The demand is, therefore, not logical”, said Saini while talking to Hindustan Times.

He also raised a question over the working of the army and police and said, “As they (Jats) have good strength in the army and police, they did not take the required action when the state was burning, despite shoot-atsight orders given by the government.”

He added, “They (Jats) consider themselves above the Constitution, law and the government. They may misuse their strength in the army and the police.”

On the threat of Jat leaders to launch fresh protests, the MP said, “The threat of agitation is just to create pressure on the government for their wrong demand and the party should take timely action against them.”

He said, “At a time when the Prime Minister and RSS are saying that the prosperous people should shun benefits for the welfare of poor, Jats are adamant with their improper demand,” he added.

Asked why he did not raise the Jat reservation issue in the Parliament, he said, “I was not given time to speak”.

He refused to answer whether he would oppose the Haryana government’s decision to bring a law to provide reservation to Jats and other four castes under sthe pecial backward classes (OBC) category.

Meanwhile, the agitation call given by the members of the Jat community got a poor response in the northern districts very few people joined the day-long protest.


2 war widows threaten dharna

Aman Sood

Tribune News Service

Patiala, March 14

Bant Kaur, who lost her husband Pyara Singh in the 1965 India-Pakistan War, and Surjit Kaur, widow of 1962 India-China War hero Jangir Singh, are running from pillar to post to get financial aid. Remarried, both have threatened to sit on dharna outside the civil secretariat in Chandigarh to press for the demands of widows like them.The two widows today met Patiala Deputy Commissioner Rambir Singh to raise the issue of pending compensation.Bant Kaur, who resides at Duladdi village, said: “I have worked as a daily-wager and washed utensils to earn a livelihood. I am waiting that someday I would be given the promised 10-acre land. Despite writing letters and raising our issue time and again, all that we hear is that the government is yet to clear 60-odd cases of war widows residing in Punjab.”Bant survives on a pension of Rs 12,000 per month, given by the Army in recognition of her husband’s sacrifice. Her husband (from the second marriage) and son also work as daily-wagers.Surjit Kaur, who lives at Alhaura village, said, “The government announced 10 acres each for war widows; 1977 was the deadline. No one informed us nor was I told how to apply for the land.”

AAP promise

Aam Aadmi Party leader Balbir Singh said he would take up the cause of Punjab’s war widows and facilitate Delhi CM Arvind Kejriwal’s meeting with them. “If the government further delays their cases, they will die penniless,” he added.As per estimates, there are about 60 such pending cases in Punjab, of which three were from Patiala. One widow has died, while the other two continue to fight for their rights.


Court martial reaffirms ‘not guilty’ judgment on Army Major

THE OFFICER WAS SUBJECTED TO TRIAL BASED ON FORGED DOCUMENTS AND EARLIER DECISION OF ‘NOT GUILTY’ WAS BASED ON ENTIRE EVIDENCE AND CASE LAW’

CHANDIGARH: The re-opened General Court Martial (GCM) of Major Vikalp Purohit, has maintained the earlier verdict of ‘not guilty.’

After hearing the arguments of defence counsel Col SK Aggarwal (retd), the GCM presided over by Col JJ Abraham, again returned the verdict not guilty.

THE CASE

On August 20, 2010, Major Vikalp Purohit, then posted with General Reserve Engineer Force (GREF), was arrested from Koksar on the ManaliLeh road. One of the charges was that he gained pecuniary benefits by selling army diesel. In this regard, ` 23,000 was recovered from his office. The second allegation was that he had loaned 1,200-litre diesel to road contractor Sahdev Sharma.

The Western Army commander did not allow the prosecution to put the major on trial. The major’s counsel, Colonel SK Aggarwal (retd), has said in the army commander’s opinion, no case was made out since “in a difficult terrain, it was their (army’s) duty to provide help.”

After that, in June 2012, the CBI submitted the final report to the sessions judge in Shimla and the case was handed over to the Army. Major Purohit was then tried at a GCM at Ambala where CBI superintendent of police R Upasak was among the prosecution witnesses. The authorities had laid two charges against the accused under Prevention of Corruption Act, 1988, based on the case filed by SP, CBI Shimla.

The GCM had earlier found the officer ‘Not Guilty’ of both the charges on merit.

On revision, the defence counsel challenged the revision order arguing that it was issued without jurisdiction and that their arguments were not based on oral and documentary evidence as brought on record of the trial proceedings. The exact record of evidence was placed before the Court Martial, disputing all the contentious issues raised in the revision order. It was also argued that order virtually amounted to directing members to find the Accused ‘Guilty’.

Col Aggarwal also argued that the officer was subjected to trial based on fake and forged documents and that the earlier decision of ‘Not Guilty’ was based on the entire evidence and case law. The decision was legally sustainable warranting no revision of finding on the second charge.

The judge accepting the arguments of the defence, rejected the revision order and once again returned verdict of ‘Not Guilty’ by passing a legally sustainable speaking judgment.


Lt-Gen Hira appointed Deputy Chief of Army

Lt-Gen Hira appointed Deputy Chief of Army
Lt-General NPS Hira

Chandigarh: Lt-General NPS Hira has been appointed  Deputy Chief of Army Staff at the Army Headquarters. He will assume office on March 14. Lt-General Hira is currently posted as Chief of Staff, Northern Command, Udhampur. He earlier commanded 11 Corps, also known as “Defenders of Punjab”, in Jalandhar and as Colonel of the Regiment of the Sikh Light Infantry. He has a vast experience in counter-insurgency operations in Jammu and Kashmir and the North-East region, as well as conventional operations in the Western Command. TNS

Tyre of plane carrying Army Commander bursts Dehradun:

Eight defence personnel onboard an IAF Avro aircraft escaped unhurt after its tyre burst while landing at the Jolly Grant Airport here. Lt General Balwant Singh Negi, GoC, Central Command, was among the four Army and four IAF personnel onboard the aircraft that was flying from Lucknow. The incident occurred at 8.30 am. The pilot managed to land the plane on the runway. Following the incident, operations at the airport were shut down temporarily and several flights cancelled. TNS


Retd armyman’s estranged wife fakes his death to sell off property

JALANDHAR: The wife of a retired naik, who had fought in the 1971 war with Pakistan, has been booked on charges of cheating, forgery and criminal conspiracy to sell off his flat after transferring the ownership in her name by using a fake death certificate.

Accused Kamla Devi of Deru village in Himachal Pradesh has the FIR registered against her at Navi Baradari police station. The FIR says that naik (retd) Ram Aasra, 72, of Sadh Nagar in Delhi, told police that Kamla and he were a couple since in 1972 and they had two children, Asha and Santosh. He was allotted a flat in the local housing board colony on December 15, 1980, by PUDA and he moved in there with family during posting in Jalandhar.

Aasra, who is a native of Purhiran village, Hoshiarpur, said that after Operation Bluestar in 1984, during which he was shot in the thigh, he was transferred to Pathankot in January 1985 and retired in same December. Thereafter, Kamla separated from him and he came to know about the status of the flat in 2007 when she filed an alimony case.

Ex-serviceman’s house sold by wife by forging his death certificate

Nikhil Bhardwaj,Tribune News Service

Jalandhar, March 6

In a strange case of fraud, the wife of an ex-serviceman, who retired as Nayak from the Indian Army, sold his house by allegedly forging his fake death certificate.The ex-serviceman had got this house, located in the Housing Board Colony, from the Army quota. Interestingly, the house has seen three ownership changes.The woman showed herself to be the widow of Ram Asra and managed to sell the house. Sources said the woman had even attached a fake death certificate but the officials allegedly did not testify the authenticity of the certificate before giving nod to the sale of the house.The 72-year-old ex-serviceman, Ram Asra, who is currently staying at Sadh Nagar in Delhi heaved a sigh of relief when the Jalandhar police registered a case of fraud against his wife Kamla Devi under Sections 420, 465, 471 and 120B of the IPC.As per the complainant, his wife has been staying in Pathankot and is still evading arrest.According to the complainant, he had come to know of the sale of his house, allotted to him in 1980 under the defence quota in 2009 when he got information from the PUDA Jalandhar under the RTI.He said his wife Kamla sold this house to Surinder Kaur, wife of Santokh Singh. The ownership of the house was later given to one Anupam. Anupam later sold this house to one Gurminder Kaur who later again sold this house to one Anil Kumar Khatri.Ram Asra said he had also met the Deputy Commissioner in January 2015 who had assured of action against the culprit and assured that he could also get the house ownership back through legal procedures.He said he came to know about the fraud and filed a complaint with the SSP in 2009 who marked an inquiry to the anti-fraud department but no action was taken by the police against Kamla.Now a few days ago, he received a phone call from the DC office in Jalandhar and was informed that an FIR has been registered against Kamla and the department would help him in getting back the ownership of the house.“I want justice, house ownership back,” Ram Asra“I urge the Deputy Commissioner, Jalandhar, PUDA officials, revenue and police officials to help him in getting the house ownership back. My wife has cheated me and she should be punished. At the age of 72, I am suffering from many diseases. I urge the authorities to ensure justice to me,” Ram Asra requested.


Madrasas in N Waziristan hub of terror activities: Pak diplomat

Madrasas in N Waziristan hub of terror activities: Pak diplomat
A file photo of Sartaj Aziz, Pakistan Prime Minister”s Adviser on National Security and Foreign Affairs. — AFP

Washington, March 5

Madrasas along the Af-Pak border and tribal areas, in particular North Waziristan, had become a hub of terrorist activities, Pakistan’s top diplomat has said, but blamed it on the Afghan refugees, who entered the country when the US pushed the Taliban out of power after the 9/11.These madrasas had well-oiled terror infrastructure, beyond imagination, running bomb-making factories, terrorists training centres and those to train suicide bombers – all under multi-storied basement under the mosque, Pakistan Prime Minister’s Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz told a group of defence writers here this week.”In one mosque that I visited, I remember, in Miranshah, from outside we did not see anything. But under the mosque there were a 70-room basement, three stories, in which there were four-five IED factories, four-five suicide training centres, communication network, VIP room, conference rooms, amazing infrastructure,” he said, giving details of the how deep rooted terror infrastructure had developed in Pakistan.In North Waziristan, where the Pakistan Army had launched operation Zarb-e-Azb in June 2014, Aziz estimated there were 30-40 such mosques with similar kind of infrastructure.Pakistan’s tribal areas along the Af-Pak border have seven agencies and North Waziristan is one of them.Aziz, who was here to attend the 6th US-Pakistan Strategic Dialogue, said this while giving details of the steps being taken by the Pakistani army against terrorists.”According to our estimates, the IED factories in this particular agency if they had gone their way without disruption, they had enough IEDs for next 20 years for the scale of attacks that they were doing. Those have ended now. Communication infrastructure has been disrupted,” Aziz said.He, however, blamed the Afghan refugees for the tribal areas of Pakistan becoming a hub of terrorism.”We inherited this problem of (terrorism), 9/11 onwards when people were pushed into our side of the border and they became a threat to us, because they lost their hold in their part of the world. Our tribal belt between Pakistan and Afghanistan is a very long belt and a very open territory. So they came and established themselves,” he said.”Initially they came to seek refuge, but they soon realised that unless they controlled territory and resources they can’t survive there. So they started expanding their activities and by 2007-08, they had covered most of the tribal areas. They killed the tribal leaders, then they stared establishing their communication networks, IED factories, suicide training centres,” he noted.“It was unbelievable how quickly they expanded and trained themselves in the tribal belt. So we started getting large scale attacks in our cities, suicide attacks and bomb blasts,” Aziz said, adding that in these 14 years, Pakistan lost about 60,000 people, including 10,000 security personnel.He estimated the economic losses beyond $100 billion.The toughest area infested with the terrorist was the North West Frontier Province, he said.Out of seven agencies that the security forces have cleared, those groups, which could not survive there migrated or shifted their activities to North Waziristan.”So North Waziristan by 2013 had become hub of many local and foreign terrorist groups. Our own Tehrek-e-Taliban Pakistan, which we call TTP, Chechen, Uzbeks, Chinese… it became a heart-bed of various (terrorist) things. Our own writ was very limited at that time, apart from military camps,” Aziz said.In June 2014, Pakistan Army started operation Zarb-e-Azb, he said, adding that it was a very difficult operation.”We have achieved the results that we needed because the entire infrastructure has been destroyed. So this has been a very successful operation,” he said, adding that the Nawaz Sharif government is determined to act against terrorism.He told defence writers that the terrorist attack at an army-run school in Peshawar changed the entire narrative and created a consensus against terrorists in Pakistan.”Before that there were pockets of support for them. But when this thing happened in December 2014, all the political parties agreed on a 20-point national action plan to take on terrorist groups,” he said.According to Aziz, once the anti-terrorism operation started in tribal belt, terrorist groups and leaders moved to the cities and urban centres.”They all migrated to cities. They did not had a big infrastructure of FATA (federally administrated tribal areas), but around cities they could rent one or two houses, make small IED factory, suicide attacks or small bomb blast and their capacity to damage remained,” he said.The police and intelligence operation has resulted in apprehending of 25,000 terrorists across the country.”As a result last year the total number of terrorist attacks have dropped by half and is gradually going down because their capacity to operate has come down,” he said.Aziz said the next phases of the National Action Plan is madrasas reforms and tightening of their funding sources.These madrasas, he said, were jointly “funded, armed and created” by the US and Pakistan to train people to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan.”We have about 75,000 unregistered madrasas,” he said, where people are trained, brainwashed, and prepared for terrorist activities.”All of the madrasas are not terrorist-related but many of them are, so now those madrasas have been notified: Either close down or register yourself,” he told separately at the Council on Foreign Affairs, a top American think-tank.The Sharif government, he said, is also working on de-radicalisation, which means how do you win the minds and hearts of these people and curriculum reform.”The whole counter-narrative for—the extremist narrative, and particularly the ISIL narrative, is very powerful and very catchy for the young people. So you can’t counter it by sermons from religious leaders. It requires a very different approach to identifying these messages and identifying the correct response to these,” he said.Aziz said that the plan is moving in the right direction because of the commitment of the Sharif government to take action against terrorism without discrimination. — PTI


Martyred soldier’s father pained at smearing of signboard Seeks justice from dist admn, police department

Martyred soldier’s father pained at smearing of signboard
Ajit Singh, father of martyr Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh, talks to Police Commissioner Yurinder Singh Hayer regarding the defacement of his son’s signboard in Jalandhar on Thursday. Tribune Photo: Malkiat Singh

Nikhil Bhardwaj

Tribune News Service

Jalandhar, March 3

An elderly man has sought “self-willed death” as the district administration and the police department “do not want to act” against the miscreants who have smeared the signboard of his son, late Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh, outside Shaheed Gurbinder Singh Colony here.Ajit Singh, father of martyr Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh, today met Police Commissioner Yurinder Singh Hayer to seek action against the miscreants.Ajit Singh, a resident of Baba Budha Nagar in Rama Mandi, said his 23-year-old son laid down his life for the country on December 10, 2001, in Poonch, Jammu and Kashmir.Giving respect to the martyrdom of Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh, the Municipal Corporation (MC), Jalandhar, on July 29, 2005, named a colony Shaheed Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh Colony here and a signboard was also put up outside the colony.Later, the colony’s name was got changed to British Town by some persons at the MC House meeting.Ajit Singh said a few months later, he filed a complaint with the MC regarding this and a five-member committee was constituted which ordered to change the name British Town to Shaheed Lieutenant Gurbinder Singh Colony.On Thursday, the Electronic Media Association (EMA) president, Nikhil Sharma, along with the martyr’s father Ajit Singh, met the Police Commissioner and demanded the registration of an FIR against the miscreants who blackened the martyr’s signboard.ADCP 1, J Elanchezhian, along with the MC and district administration officials, also visited the spot where the signboard was defaced.

FIR registered against four

  • Acting on the complaint of the martyr’s father, the city police registered a case against DS Dhillon, Satinder Singh, Harminder Singh, TP Singh and some unknown persons under Section 3 of the Prevention of Damage to Public Property Act 1984 and Section 434 of the IPC.

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AFT dismisses bail plea of four soldiers

SOCIETY EXPECTS ARMY PERSONNEL TO OBEY THE LAW AND RESPECT IT, SAYS THE AFT

CHANDIGARH: The Chandigarh bench of Armed Forces Tribunal (AFT) has dismissed the bail applications of four soldiers, who were dismissed from the service and sentenced to 10-year rigorous imprisonment (RI) for mutiny in Nyoma in 2012.

In May 2012, officers and jawans of 226 Field Regiment had clashed at Nyoma near Leh following a rape attempt on an officer’s wife. The officers had to flee after jawans attacked them. The unit was on field firing exercise at Nyoma.After the mutiny, the officers involved had pleaded guilty and were let off with forfeiture of services while a number of jawans faced trial and suffered imprisonment and dismissal.

Naseer Mohammed, D Munivel, Anuj Kumar and Bikramjit Singh were among the mob of soldiers who hurled stones at officers. Their trial along with 11 others ended last year and the sentence was promulgated on November 30, 2015.

Commanding Officer Col Prasad Kadam had sustained five fractures on the vital parts of his body.

The court of inquiry had indicted over 150 soldiers and four officers. It had also pointed out failure of command and control.

While dismissing the bail applications of Naseer, Munivel, Anuj Kumar and Bikramjit Singh, the bench comprising Justice Surinder Singh Thakur and Lt Gen DS Sidhu (retd) said, “… the society expects that army personnel should obey the law and respect it…in fact no army personnel can make an attempt to create a concavity in the stem of the army stream. It is absolutely impressible. If someone does anything against the army discipline of such a nature then showing misplaced sympathy would create a chaos, thus it cannot be lightly viewed.”

The bench added, “Therefore, tested on the aforesaid judicial parameters and also on going through the record of the respondents produced before us and returned after perusal, in our considered opinion at this stage the sentence cannot be suspended not the bail can be granted.”