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Glimpse of Pak’s N-vault available online

Glimpse of Pak’s N-vault available online

Vijay Mohan

Tribune News Service

Chandigarh, May 8

The details of another Pakistani airbase, believed to be the storage point for air deliverable nuclear weapons, are now available online. A series of pictures reveal the construction of special underground vaults at Masroor airbase, west of Karachi, which were completed earlier this year.An open source satellite image of March 2016 shows a hardened aircraft shelter adjacent to a taxi track, similar to that seen on airbases. A close examination of this image and comparison with earlier imagery of the same site reveals a “well designed” underground vault system and weapon storage bunkers interconnected with each other, according to a post by an expert in imagery interpretation.Overhead images from February and April 2015 give a glimpse of the underground vault, believed to have been constructed with foreign assistance. The structure, according to experts, is on the lines of the western Weapons Storage and Security System that includes electronic controls and vaults built into the floors of aircraft shelters for safe storage of special weapons. These are present on many American and NATO military airbases.Masroor is Pakistan’s largest airbase that houses its 32 Tactical Attack Wing comprising four squadrons. It lies to the west of the port city and is about 15 km away from the Pakistan Navy’s Mehran naval air station that had witnessed a devastating terror attack in May 2011.The vault, experts said, enables Pakistan to have nuclear weapons and the required aircraft at operational readiness at all times. Greater secrecy can be maintained since it would not require any significant additional movement of manpower and vehicles, which can be detected. It also ensures survivability of nuclear weapons in case of any first strike. 


Will oppose Sainik Colonies: Tarigami

Tribune News Service

Srinagar, May 8

CPM state secretary and legislator Mohammad Yousuf Tarigami on Sunday said he would “vehemently oppose” any move to establish ‘Sainik Colonies’ for retired Army personnel in the state.“Since the plan in a way envisages settling non-permanent resident retired soldiers in J&K, it amounts to virtual scraping of the state’s special status covertly,” Tarigami said in a statement.Tarigami said such move will “further alienate the overwhelming majority of the state” at a time when the support for retaining and strengthening the Article 370 and special status of the state is rapidly growing.“One is constrained to infer that this motivated move may be the hidden item of the Agenda of Alliance. It is our party’s considered opinion that the move will further complicate the Kashmir imbroglio and the efforts to resolve it would be seriously jeopardised,” he said.“It is in the best interest of the state and the country at large that the plan, if envisioned, should be renounced permanently so that the fragile peace is not disturbed,” Tarigami said.

Says move will alienate the majority

  • “Since the plan in a way envisages settling non-permanent resident retired soldiers in J&K, it amounts to virtual scraping of the state’s special status covertly,” CPM state secretary MY Tarigami said.
  • Such move will “further alienate the overwhelming majority of the state” at a time when the support for retaining and strengthening the Article 370 and special status of the state was rapidly growing, he said.
  • “It is in the best interests of the state and the country at large that the plan, if envisioned, should be renounced permanently so that the fragile peace is not disturbed,” he added.

Prove Sainik Colony claim: NC to Akhter

Srinagar, May 8

The National Conference (NC) today asked government spokesperson Naeem Akhter, who had denied that the government had initiated the process to allocate land for Sainik Colony, to substantiate his statement or else resign.NC spokesperson Junaid Mattu said Akhter should substantiate his statement denying allocation of land for Sainik Colony “failing which he should resign from the state Cabinet for deliberately disseminating lies on such a sensitive matter”.“There was unambiguous proof that successive PDP-BJP governments headed by late Mufti Mohammad Sayeed and (incumbent CM) Mehbooba Mufti were involved in the process of allocating hundreds of kanals of land for the proposed Sainik Colony in Srinagar,” Mattu said in a statement. He claimed that the “official documents prove it beyond any reasonable doubt that the official process of identification land for Sainik Colony … was initiated twice in 2015 and 2016”. — TNS


BJP to stick to ‘name no one’ planParrikar draws Prime Minister’s appreciation for his statement in Rajya Sabha

Vibha Sharma

Tribune News Service

New Delhi, May 5

Put everything about AgustaWestland scam on Parliament record, but without naming the Gandhis. This strategy was used by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar while speaking in the Rajya Sabha as he used words like “invincible hand” to refer to Congress chief Sonia Gandhi. He is expected to use the same technique when the contentious issue comes up for discussion in the Lok Sabha tomorrow.“It appears that an invincible hand was guiding actions or inactions by the CBI and the ED,” Parrikar said while reading his long 10-page written statement that drew sharp criticism from not just the Congress, but also from some political observers who crititicised its extensive technical details.Significantly, the last page of his original statement also referred to Sonia Gandhi, her political secretary Ahmed Patel and former Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, which BJP sources claim was struck off at the last moment. Eventually, Parrikar talked about the Italian court judgment without any names.All he said while referring to the judgment in the House was: “The text of the judgment also makes reference to various individuals such as Tyagi family as well as some bureaucrats.”As per BJP sources, the aim of the long statement was to ensure that each and every aspect of the scam went down in Parliament records without being expunged. It also indicates that certain names may not be part of the judgment. In any case, Prime Minister Narendra Modi tweeted praise for Defence Minister’s speech in the Rajya Sabha, terming it one of the “best speeches” displaying best parliamentary traditions”.“Yesterday’s speech by RM @manoharparrikar in the Rajya Sabha was one of the best speeches, displaying best parliamentary traditions,” he said.

Modi pat

Yesterday’s speech by RM@manoharparrikar in the Rajya Sabha was one of the best speeches, displaying best parliamentary traditions… RM@manoharparrikar rose above politics & placed all relevant facts on the table. Urging you all to hear his speech. — Narendra Modi, Prime Minister

Khaitan got payment from middlemen: CBI

  • The CBI on Thursday claimed that former board member of Aeromatrix Gautam Khaitan has accepted taking payments from Guido Haschke and Carlo Gerosa, middlemen in the Agusta Westland Chopper deal, but rejected allegations that it was part of any kickback
  • “He has agreed taking payment from European middlemen Guido Haschke and Carlo Gerosa. However, we do not agree with the purpose behind the payment which has been cited by him,” CBI sources said

ED questions IAF ex-Chief Tyagi

  • Former Indian Air Force Chief SP Tyagi was questioned by the Enforcement Directorate (ED) for the first time in connection with AgustaWestland case on Thursday
  • His statement was recorded under the Prevention of Money Laundering Act (PMLA) at ED’s zonal office in central Delhi
  • Earlier, Tyagi was quizzed by the CBI in connection with the case on Monday and Tuesday

Pak’s ISI snooping on Indian forces through app malwares: Govt

TRAP Pak agency is also making efforts to lure ex-servicemen by promising jobs

NEW DELHI: Pakistan’s intelligence agencies are snooping on Indian security forces using malwares through mobile applications such as Top Gun, mpjunkie, vdjunky, talking frog, minister of state for home Haribhai Chaudhary informed the Lok Sabha on Tuesday.

“There are reports that Pakistan intelligence agencies are spying on Indian security forces by sending malwares in mobile applications such as Top Gun (game app), mpjunkie (music app), vdjunkey (video app), talking frog (entertainment app),” Chaudhary informed the lower house.

The minister also said the Pakistan spy agency ISI was trying to trap ex-servicemen in the garb of providing job opportunities and financial aid for spying. Between 2013 and 2016, seven ex-servicemen were arrested or detected for espionage activities for the ISI.

“The Indian security forces have been sensitised about Pakistan ISI using dubious applications on smartphones,” he said.

The minister added that the government has circulated computer security policy and guidelines to all on steps to prevent, detect and mitigate cyber attacks.

It also includes sanitisation of staff and officers, installations of CCTV and biometric for electronic surveillance with well defined crisis management plan.


Parliament’s defence panel members visit Chandimandir

Chandigarh, May 30

In an ongoing tour of the Parliament’s Standing Committee on Defence, 12 MPs from Lok Sabha and Rajya Sabha arrived on a two-day visit to the Chandimandir Military Station.The committee is chaired by Maj Gen BC Khanduri (retd), who represents the Garhwal constituency.The visiting members were briefed by the General Officer Commanding-in-Chief, Western Command, Lt Gen KJ Singh, on various operational and administrative aspects of the Command. A conducted tour of the military station was made by the committee members. — TNS


Filing your ITR? Don’t forget to claim tax relief on arrears

BENGALURU: It is bonanza year for government employees. Around 16 lakh ex-servicemen have received the first installment of the one-rank-one-pension payouts along with another fifty-two lakh retired pensioners from central government service who would benefit from the 7th Pay Commission recommendations. Although, technically, they have earned the money years back, the pension and pay hikes will be credited as lump sum to their bank accounts only now. This could mean a huge tax bill.  There is, however, an escape route which most are not aware of. As per tax rules, if you have received any portion of your salary or pension in arrears or in advance, you are allowed tax relief under section 89(1) The intention of the relief is to save you from any additional tax burden due to delay in receiving your earnings . “The relief protects the taxpayer from paying a higher tax. In many cases, the individual might have moved up in the tax slab and should definitely not be penalised with higher taxes because he received his income late,” says Archit Gupta, founder and CEO, ClearTax.in. Not many people understand how arrears should be taxed as the calculations are a bit complicated (s .. While you are claiming relief under Section 89(1) do not forget to fill Form 10E. It is is mandatory to file to be eligible to make the claim. “Taxpayers who have claimed relief under section 89(1) in the previous years but had not filed Form 10E have received letters from the department stating the relief was not allowed as Form 10E was not furnished,” says Gupta. Good thing is that Form 10E can be easily filed and submitted online under e-file, other than ITR section.

ELEMENT: Calculating tax relief on arrears correctly.

Step 1: Calculate tax payable on the total income, including arrears for the year in which it is received

Step 2: Calculate tax payable on the total income, excluding arrears for the year in which it is received

Step 3: Calculate difference between tax liability in Step 1 and Step 2

Step 4: Calculate tax payable on the total income, including arrears for the year o which the arrears relate

Step 5: Calculate tax payable on the total income, excluding arrears for the year o which the arrears relate

Step 6: Calculate difference between tax liability in Step 4 and Step 5

Step 7: Subtract the tax difference you arrived at at Step 6 from Step 3. The excess amount is the tax relief you can claim
SOURCE: ClearTax.in

Note: If the tax liability at Step 6 is more than the tax liability at Step 3, no relief will be allowed.


KARGIL 17 YEARS LATER The height of challenge

Dinesh Kumar in Chandigarh
The otherwise militarily well-executed intrusions by Pakistan, who for the first few weeks succeeded in misleading India, reflected badly on the security apparatus of a country considered a regional power with the world’s third largest army, fourth largest air force and seventh largest navy. The Tribune takes you 17 years back and makes a realistic assessment of the situation from the peaks of hard-earned victory

The height of challenge
Tribune file photo: Manoj Mahajan

SEVENTEEN years ago on 26th May 1999, a wave of six Indian Air Force (IAF) fighter aircraft comprising two Soviet-origin MiG-21, MiG-23BN and MiG-27M each launched air strikes on Pakistani soldiers located in about 130 pickets on scores of dominating mountain peaks and ridge lines along a 160 km stretch on the Indian side of the Line of Control (LoC) in the Kargil and Leh districts of J&K.With the battleground ranging between 14,000 and 18,000 feet, the 85-day limited Kargil War between India and Pakistan turned out to be the world’s highest elevation air and land war during which the Army fired a staggering 250,000 artillery shells (average 5,000 a day), a scale unprecedented since World War-II. The IAF, which did some brilliant innovations including unprecedented high altitude night operations in moonlight, ended up flying 7,631 sorties (average 40 a day) including 1,730 missions by 60 fighter aircraft that dropped about 500 bombs including, for the first time, laser guided bombs in anger.Over several weeks preceding the start of the Kargil War, the Pakistani Army surreptitiously intruded 8 to 10 km inside the Indian side of the LoC across four contiguously located sub sectors – Mushkoh Valley (adjacent to the 11,500 Zoji La), Dras, Kargil and Batalik (adjoining the Siachen glacier) – and established outposts overlooking the country’s solitary National Highway connecting Srinagar to Leh. Pakistan’s multi-fold intention was to realign the LoC by salami slicing a part of J&K, interdict the highway and thereby disrupt the Army’s line of communication, cut off the Siachen Glacier, internationalise the J&K issue and give a fillip to its sponsored militancy in the state.Both the Indian intelligence and the Army were caught shamefully unawares just as it had in the two previous Kashmir wars – 1947-48 and 1965. As in 1965, the intrusion first came to the Army’s notice from (two) shepherds on the payrolls of the military intelligence after they sighted intruders on the higher reaches of Batalik.Then had begun a flurry of activity aimed at ascertaining the identity of and vacating the intruders. The first Army patrol sent to investigate was attacked and met with casualties (four killed and five wounded); a second patrol went missing; an IAF helicopter followed by a Canberra reconnaissance aircraft were damaged in Pakistani rocket fire; and an attempt to dislodge the Pakistanis from a key peak (Point 5353) was repulsed. By 25th May, i.e. a day before the start of air strikes, 29 Indian soldiers had either been killed or gone missing and another 30 wounded. But the Army still did not know the full extent of the intrusions, their number and identity (whether Pakistani Army or militants as they were claiming). It was not the brightest moment for a country that only a year earlier had proudly self declared to be a nuclear weapon state and had 28 years earlier (1971) soundly defeated and dismembered Pakistan.On 26th July, two weeks after the IAF concluded their strike missions on 12th July, the government announced that all intrusions had been vacated. Officers and soldiers of a not so well prepared and equipped Army valiantly fought dozens of difficult high altitude battles that involved crossing deep ravines and painstakingly scaling steep hostile craggy rocky slopes, often at night, to retake lost territory peak by peak yard by yard in an inhospitable terrain and sub zero temperatures which was as much the enemy as the Pakistani soldiers. Indian soldiers and air force pilots had to function within the constraint of a government directive forbidding crossing the LoC. However, for tactical reasons the Army thrice successfully crossed the LoC to capture tactically important features to facilitate vacating the intruders. The 27 Rajput battalion crossed the LoC south of Turtuk near NJ 9842; 14 Sikh battalion similarly captured a feature about a kilometre inside the Pakistani side of the LoC near Chorbat La while a Jat battalion captured a feature adjacent to the Kupwara sector. In the latter case, however, the soldiers had to withdraw west of the Mushkoh Valley after about 30 of them suffered frost bite. The Army continues to retain all the captured features.

Victory’s cost

Did the Kargil War end with an Indian victory and Pakistan’s defeat? Has India learnt its lessons? Has Pakistan too learnt its lessons and desist from repeating history? The meaning of events changes with time and 17 years is a fairly long time to reflect.India’s victory lies in recovering territory lost due to its incompetence, this came at a high human cost: 527 soldiers (including six airmen) killed and 1,363 wounded (many maimed for life). When compared to duration and geographical spread, the Army proportionately lost more soldiers in the over two-month war than in the 14-month 1947-48 war in which 1,103 soldiers were killed. The IAF lost three aircraft – a MiG 27M to engine failure and a MiG-21 and Mi-17 helicopter each to Pakistani missiles. Some deft diplomacy led to an unusual public support by the US and all major countries for the Indian position vis-à-vis a diplomatically isolated Pakistan. Islamabad’s, rather Rawalpindi’s (headquarters of the Pakistani Army), ‘success’ lay in internationalising the Kashmir issue; exposing the Indian Army and intelligence agencies, respectively, for their lack of preparedness and incompetence; and continuing their proxy war in J&K. Overall the otherwise militarily well executed intrusions by Pakistan, who for the first few weeks succeeded in misleading the Indian Army and intelligence agencies, reflected badly on the security apparatus of a country considered a regional power with the world’s third largest army, fourth largest air force and seventh largest navy.

Panel and all that

Three days after the war ended, the government on 29th July 1999 constituted the Kargil Review Committee (KRC) headed by K. Subrahmanyam to examine the sequence of events and make recommendations for the future. The report submitted in December 1999 was tabled in Parliament in February 2000 following which in April 2000 the government constituted the Group of Ministers (GoM) Committee headed by LK Advani  to examine the entire gamut of the national defence structure and to formulate specific proposals for implementation of the report prepared by the KRC. The GoM, which met 27 times, in turn formed four Task Forces, each of which examined the intelligence apparatus, internal security, border management and the management of defence. The report submitted on 26th February 2001 was discussed by the Cabinet Committee on Security two-and-a-half months later on 11th May.Some of the recommendations accepted included the establishing of an Intelligence Coordination Group and a Technical Coordination Group (tasked to oversee technical intelligence). The Aviation Research Centre or ARC, which earlier formed part of India’s external intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), was elevated to a separate agency known as the National Technical Reconnaissance Organisation (NTRO). Border management is now based on the one-border one-force principle.Some of the Services-specific measures taken included elevating the Fortress Andaman and Nicobar (FORTAN), earlier under the Eastern Naval Command, to the Andaman and Nicobar Command (ANC), a first-ever tri-service Command. The government created the Strategic Forces Command entrusted with nuclear weapons and long-range missiles, a tri-services Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), a Defence Procurement Board and a system of a holistic 15-year Long Term Integrated Perspective Plan (LTIPP). India now has better resolution (one metre) satellites to detect intrusions while large portions of the LoC have been fenced with barbed wire and sensors. The Army has since truncated the geographical jurisdiction of the Srinagar-based 15 Corps and raised 14 Corps in Leh to exclusively cater for the Ladakh region that faces the armies of two countries – China and Pakistan. J&K now has three Corps – numbers 14, for Ladakh, 15, for the Valley and Nagrota-based 16, for the Jammu-Poonch region.

Crucial exclusion

But the government stopped short of implementing two major recommendations of the GoM – creating a Chief of Defence Staff/Force and integrating the armed forces with the decision-making apparatus of the Ministry of Defence where, currently, pivotal decision making positions are held by generalist bureaucrats on deputation. The existing Service commands also need to be restructured into joint or unified commands for better focus, synergy and optimum use of resources. Instead of appointing a CDS or CDF as the principal military advisor, the government took a half measure by creating a holistic tri-service secretariat headed by a Chief of Integrated Defence Staff (CIDS) with officials from departments such as the Ministry of External Affairs and the Defence Research and Development Organisations on deputation. It is a different matter that some of the key non-Services positions are seldom filled.Notwithstanding the measures taken, successive governments at the Centre are yet to effectively address three basic issues that characterised the Kargil War: (a) intelligence gathering, the failure of which led to Pakistan’s successful intrusion; (b) deficiencies in defence equipment which was evident during the Kargil War when Army Chief General VP Malik famously remarked ‘we will fight with whatever we have’ on being asked whether the Army was prepared in case the Army’s operation in the Kargil region escalated into a full fledged war (see interview) and (c) the Army-dominated Pakistani establishment’s policy of deception, subterfuge and using terror as an instrument of state policy.Deficiencies in India’s ability to collect, collate and analyse intelligence is evident from the several embarrassing intelligence failures that have occurred since. The December 1999 hijack of an Indian Airlines aircraft from Kathmandu to Kandahar, the December 2001 terror attack on Parliament, the 26th November 2008 terror attack in Mumbai and the more recent terror attacks in the Punjab border towns of Dinanagar (2015) and Pathankot air base (2016) all point to the continuing shortcomings in India’s intelligence apparatus and the fact that Pakistan’s military and intelligence establishment continues to either encourage terrorist groups or directly sponsor terrorism in India.

Preparedness lacking

In recent years India has attained the dubious distinction of becoming the world’s largest importer of defence equipment. Yet, India’s defence story in the last decade-and-a-half is one of slippages in preparedness notwithstanding an annual defence budget of Rs 340,000 crore. The import-dependent armed forces continue to suffer shortages on a grand scale. For example, the IAF squadron strength has fallen from the sanctioned 42 to 33 with projections of a further fall to 25 unless the replacement rate exceeds the retirement pace of ageing aircraft. The Navy, with a submarine fleet down to 13, is finding it difficult to maintain a force level of 138 ships and submarines approved by the government 52 years ago in 1964 let alone increase the strength to 198 ships and submarines approved in 2012. The Army is deficient of practically every equipment ranging from bulletproof jackets, night vision devices, and ammunition to artillery guns. The War Wastage Reserves (reserves set apart for an anticipated use during war) are perilously low and the Army is struggling to raise its first Mountain Strike Corps.In the long-term New Delhi needs to handle Islamabad with its India-obsessed Army that sees itself as not just Pakistan’s territorial guardian but also the custodian of its ideology. The Pakistani Army continues to play a dominant role in that country’s governance and foreign policy, especially concerning India. Pakistan, which seeks parity with India, is expected to continue training, arming and mentoring terror groups against India, particularly in J&K, and to internationalise the issue. It has and will continue to attempt nuclear blackmail against India as it has in the past.

Missed opportunities

India’s defence mismanagement and history of missed opportunities to militarily settle the Kashmir issue has not helped. India failed to take the 1947-48 war to its logical conclusion and wrest complete control of J&K. Instead it accepted a UN-sponsored ceasefire ceding 33 per cent of the state to Pakistan marking the genesis of the problem. A second opportunity arose in 1965 when it accepted a ceasefire without knowing then that Pakistan was low on ammunition and could not afford to continue the war. The third opportunity arose in 1971, the only time India was militarily pro-active. But India kept the war on the western front on a limited scale and later failed to use the stunning military victory to reach a final settlement to the J&K issue on the negotiation table.A fourth opportunity arguably arose during Exercise Brasstack (1986) when India had mobilised its armed forces on the western front. As American scholar Steven Cohen later remarked, 1986-87 was India’s last chance to fight a conventional war with Pakistan. The Pakistan-sponsored militant uprising in J&K in 1990, the Kargil War, the terror attack on parliament (2001) and in Mumbai (2008) were other provocations. But then a full-scale conventional war between India and Pakistan seems difficult with Islamabad possessing nuclear weapons. In any case, over the years India’s superiority in conventional weapons vis-a-vis Pakistan has declined. In the meantime an assertive China has been aggressively patrolling a yet-to-be delineated Line of Actual Control, established its military presence in Pakistan Occupied Jammu and Kashmir and further strengthened its line of communication. India’s security environment remains complicated and difficult. And continued slippages and deficiencies in India’s intelligence gathering and military preparedness are big problems.The craft of warThe supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.
— Sun Tzu, the art of war If you win, you need not have to explain…If you lose, you should not be there to explain!
— Adolf Hitler War is over … If you want it.
— John LennonIt is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather, we should thank God that such men lived.
— George S Patton JrTo know your enemy, you must become your enemy.
— Sun Tzu, the art of war In preparing for battle I have always found that plans are useless, but planning is indispensable.
— Dwight D Eisenhower, us presidentYou may have to fight a battle more than once to win it.
— Margaret Thatcher, uk pmTo be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace.
— George Washington, us president 

— dkumar@tribunemail.com

 


No good or bad terrorist, President tells Beijing Fixing issues ‘test of political acumen’: Pranab; China says be realistic

No good or bad terrorist, President tells Beijing
President Pranab Mukherjee and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping wave during a welcome ceremony outside the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on Thursday. AP/PTI

Simran Sodhi

Tribune News Service

Beijing, May 26

President Pranab Mukherjee today reached out to China over resolving differences saying it was “a test of our political acumen”. The tone was distinctly conciliatory, and China also said both countries need to be “realistic” when it comes to resolving the differences.In the morning, the President addressed a lecture at Peking University where he said: “I consider it a test of our political acumen when we are called upon to draw upon our civilisational wisdom and resolve these differences to the mutual satisfaction of both sides.”“Both sides should work with the aim of ensuring that we do not burden our coming generations by leaving our unresolved problems to them. I am confident that by ensuring that these matters are not aggravated and by remaining sensitive to mutual concerns, we can minimise our differences and maximise our convergences,” he said.The President later met his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang and National People’s Congress Chairman Zhang Dejiang. At a media briefing, Xiao Qian, DG, Asia at the Chinese Foreign Ministry, pointed in the same direction indicating both nations had agreed to keep talking while realising that the issues between the two should not come in the way of development and closer co-operation.The issue of counter-terrorism also came up during the President’s meetings with the Chinese leadership.The Chinese side said while the issue of Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) chief Masood Azhar was not raised, the two countries discussed counter-terrorism and agreed to co-operation exchanges under the framework of the United Nations, BRICS and other international agencies.Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar while briefing journalists said India conveyed that both India and China were affected by terrorism and that there was no such thing as a good terrorist or a bad terrorist.He added that both nations must have an understanding, both bilateral and multilateral, in fighting terrorism and that both nations would strike together on this in the UN. The President’s visit to China is primarily being seen as a signal from both leaderships that they are committed to talking and to strengthening the relationship. The contentious issues will take their time to get sorted out but the talks must continue.

 


What do Americans think about Indian Defence Forces?

Vikas Sharma
Vikas Sharma, Military Enthusiast, Politically Curious, Dog Lover

42.4k ViewsVikas has 20+ answers in Indian Armed Forces.
Hi, thanks for the A2A. Let me start by presenting some reactions of members of the US Defence Forces during their interactions with the Indian Armed Forces, in various exercises:

1. Ex Yudh Abayas (War Training), an annual joint training exercise between the Indian and US Armies.

“The U.S. Soldiers learned counterinsurgency and jungle warfare operations in northeast India. A primary purpose of 05-01’s bilateral training was to have the Indian Army present the Guam and Hawaii Soldiers with skills needed to defeat insurgents. The Indian Army, given their experience of over ten years in fighting an insurgency, was able to offer the U.S. Army many invaluable lessons learned on counterinsurgency and jungle warfare.”

– Dave Hilkert, Army correspondent covering Yudh Abhyas


“We have different tactics: theirs are shaped by their experiences in Jammu and Kashmir and ours by our experience in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the field training we are seeing a lot of detailed work from them, which is something we are rebuilding at our team level. The Gurkhas are a phenomenal unit. The Indian Army officers are incredible officers that any army in the world would be proud to have. “

U.S. Army Lt. Col. Phillip Sounia


“They were less intrusive in searching people’s homes and cars, a tactic that could help when troops are trying to earn the trust of the local population. They’ve just gained huge intelligence value from that — instead of killing them, they’ve captured them. All our guys said whoa — we’d never do that. We could do it. The way Indians ambushed and disarmed two insurgents impressed me. American troops, in the same drill, simply shot and killed the men”
Lt. Col. Matt Kelley, Maj. Bob Risdon: US Army 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment on the search and room clearance procedures of the Indian army.


“It’s good to see how they operate because we’ve learned a lot from them ─ tactics that we’ve never thought of.”
-Spc. Ross Berger, cavalry scout with Bravo Troop, 1-40th CAV


“I was surprised how exceptionally well we all worked together and meshed.  We understand each other really well. Both armies have similar doctrine, which made the combining operations a lot smoother. Tactically, they are really sound. We just gave them a little bit of instruction on the equipment, which is, of course, necessary when using something unfamiliar. I went into this not hoping to gain anything. I wasn’t aware of how they operated, but when we started having classes and working together it really changed my perspective.”
Sgt. Steve Faulkner, Bravo Troop, 1st Squadron (Airborne), 40th Cavalry Regiment


2. Ex Cope India, a series of USAF and IAF joint exercises

“The outcome of the exercise boils down to (the fact that) they(IAF) ran tactics that were more advanced than we expected…They could come up with a game plan, but if it wasn’t working they would call an audible and change (tactics in flight).”
– Col. Mike Snodgrass, CO, USAF 3rd Wing, Elmendorf Air Force Base on IAF defeating the USAF with a 9:1 kill ratio


“What we’ve seen in the last two weeks is the IAF can stand toe-to-toe with the best air force in the world. I pity the pilot who has to face the IAF and chances the day to underestimate him; because he won’t be going home.”

– Colonel Greg Newbech, USAF


Indian Air Force flying the MiG-21 ‘Bison’ gave USAF F-15 drivers a very bad day. “Low-tech” aircraft fitted with the right equipment, and properly trained crews – should never be underestimated. It appears the IAF knows exactly what they are doing.”

– USAF debrief on Ex Cope India


3. Ex Malabar, an annual multilateral naval exercise between US, Japan, Indian, Australian navies.

“These exercises are so important because we all share responsibility for freedom of navigation and freedom of the seas. It higlights the need for more interoperability to enhance the security in the Indo-Asia-Pacific Region.”
– Rear Adm. Terry Kraft, on the USS George Washington

The takeaway from most of these, is as follows:

  • The Indian Armed Forces were generally regarded as a poorly trained third world army like Iraq, by the US, until the time they conducted joint exercises with them. After that the US soldiers were ‘rudely awakened’/’pleasantly surprised’ to say the least.
  • No one, today, questions the training and fighting abilities of the Indian Armed forces. The US special forces, considered the best in the world, themselves undergo training and joint exercises with the Indian special forces (Ex Balance Iroquois)  at Counter Insurgency Jungle Warfare School(CIJWS), Mizoram and High Altitude Warfare School(HAWS),Gulmarg. Both these schools are regarded as premier institutes for their respective specialisation and frequently receive training requests from Israel, UK, France etc.  High ranking officers of the US Army are a regular part of the National Defence College(NDC) courses in Delhi. Hence, we can safely say that Indian Army training standards are up to the mark, according to Americans.
  • Based on the growing military strength of India, it is increasingly being seen as an important strategic ally and peer in the South Asia/Indian Ocean region and a power to reckon with, worldwide.
  • The thing found most lacking in the Indian Armed Forces is their relative lack of access to modern technology and underwhelming logistical planning. This is evident from the ‘wikileaks cable’ of Tim Roemer, US Ambassador to India(2009-2011) which critically labels the Indian Army’s Cold Start Plan (to attack Pakistan), as unfeasible. [Cold Start (military doctrine)].

To conclude, I do not believe that one armed force can be a benchmark for another armed force, as each one has a unique purpose and identity. However, that being said, the US certainly sets the bar high in technological prowess and that’s where our modernisation goals should be aimed at.


Indian Army Major’s Father & Brother Killed By Gangster In Haryana Despite An Alert To Police

ather and brother of an Indian army major were killed by a gangster in Karewari village of Sonipat, Haryana on May 12.

Why? Because they didn’t vote for the goon’s brother in the panchayat election, reports The Times Of India.

The goon, Ajay alias Kannu Chikkara, allegedly killed Jagbir Singh, 57, and Anil Chhikara, 25.

Sushil Chikkara, a 29-year-old Major in the Indian Army – who has led from the front in Siachen Glacier and the National Security Guard – couldn’t save his own family despite informing about the local police about a potential threat to them.

He had reportedly informed HS Doon, Superintendent of Police, Sonipat, the same day that there was a threat to his family.

SP Doon, however, claims that he had rushed a police team to Major Chikkara’s home, but his family wasn’t there.

On Monday, Major Chikkara wrote a letter to Haryana Governor Kaptan Singh Solanki saying,

“We exhort police and the government to nab the criminals. A soldier goes to the battlefield leaving behind his family at home with confidence that the civil administration will ensure their well-being. I was told that my family had been targeted. Had the SP provided security, my father and brother would have been alive.”

It’s been four days since the murder and the accused is still on the run.